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Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by rayanimesh on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:05AM (#24167272)
Disclaimer : I live in a village in Rajasthan.

People will still the WiFi device and sell it for pennies. They don't spare road light in many parts of cities.

Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by jiggawatts on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:28AM (#24167783)
I'm from a former soviet republic, so I know what leads to this kind of thing, but it's still horrifying to have stated so matter-of-factly.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by sneak on Saturday August 15, 2020 @08:09AM (#24168296)
Detroit had the same problem with copper wiring in street lights until a few years ago, when they went LED and were able to reduce the size of the conductors and switch to aluminum, reducing the value of stripping them for scrap.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by ISL on Saturday August 15, 2020 @08:20AM (#24168351)
Didn't we already learn (post-WWII US) that aluminum wiring is an unreliable idea?
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by sgc on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:54AM (#24168864)
No. The problem was in the 70s, with single strand solid conductors which were legal for only a few years due to fire hazards. Multi-strand aluminum is still used all the time. The single strand can work itself loose if installed quickly/without proper care due to expansion and contraction, it's not a concern for multi-strand. Single strand is also ok for a dedicated line to a single appliance / load, which is what these lights would be.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by ldiracdelta on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:47AM (#24168821)
There is functioning aluminum wiring all over the place in america, still operational to this day. I just has problems with overheating and catching fire if the load is too big. If you know the load will never change...
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by 9nGQluzmnq3M on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:24AM (#24168681)
Better unreliable wiring than stolen wiring?
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by eliseumds on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:24AM (#24168680)
Oh, I know the feeling. In my hometown in Brazil they've installed these very tall LED poles with spikes because of thieves. People here will even steal your old thongs or plant vase if you leave them outside. It's insane.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by imtringued on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:58AM (#24168886)
Also happens in South Africa but they steal batteries and sell them for a good profit: https://youtu.be/P2gSsN8NlRg
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:10AM (#24167293)
Would 5g service be a better solution?
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by gpm on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:07PM (#24170909)
Everyone has wifi enabled hardware to use as a client, no one has 5g hardware, so no?
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:21PM (#24172508)
In 1000 days everyone will have 5g service on their phones
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by gpm on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:10PM (#24173230)
Many people in first world countries will. Some people in first world countries and probably most in Indian villages don't even have 4g yet. So I doubt that in 1000 days they will have 5g when we are barely producing any devices today with that capability.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:38PM (#24173413)
The reason they don't have 4g now is mostly because there's no 4g service, not because people can't afford 4g enabled phones. I'm pretty sure by now 4g phones are just as cheap as 3g phones.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by gpm on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:27PM (#24174020)
New phones, yes. But many people don't have new phones. Especially in poorer places.

1000 days if substantially shorter than the lifecycle of phone models. New cheap phones today don't have 5g, you see the timing issue?

Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Sunday August 16, 2020 @02:49AM (#24175802)
How do they access internet right now? Whatever that is, it will continue to be available. Those who want something better will upgrade their phones.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by dzhiurgis on Sunday August 16, 2020 @10:03PM (#24183163)
Not so soon and definitely not in India.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Sunday August 16, 2020 @11:16PM (#24183518)
The same could be said about having fiber to every village, yet here we are discussing just that.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by nirav72 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:47PM (#24170227)
5g still needs backhaul infrastructure.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by p1esk on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:22PM (#24170486)
Yes, we’re talking about the last mile
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by murukesh_s on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:48AM (#24167545)
if the WiFi devices are ubiquitous, then there would be less incentive to steal.
Re:India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optica... by NullPrefix on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:53AM (#24167927)
Copper is quite ubiquitous too, yet some still steal live cables