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Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by jklm on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:38PM (#24165699)
I find it interesting that people equate/equated Elon Musk with Tony Stark. Years in the future, I think there’s a good chance people will look back and instead recognize him as an incredibly talented salesperson.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by electriclove on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:57PM (#24165793)
I find it interesting how polarizing he is to many people. Why is it hard to accept he has many flaws and strong suits?
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by api on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:16AM (#24165880)
Years ago when he acquired a cult of personality and could do no wrong, I knew it was going to swing the other way.

I never subscribed to either view. He's a brilliant engineer and a talented businessman with some apparently significant personality flaws or emotional regulation issues. In other words he's human.

Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by xkjkls on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:15PM (#24190053)
The problem with alot of people isn't the emotional regulation; it's the way he runs his businesses. He embraces a fake-it-till-you make it mindset to a huge degree. He's done so many things that are either fraud, near-fraud, or completely dishonest that it makes it impossible to support someone like that in his position.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by clouddrover on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:46AM (#24166599)
It isn't very interesting. Elon is an attention seeking narcissist. He looks for it. When he runs around Twitter calling people paedophiles he's going to have opinions formed about him. What other outcome would you expect?

Elon's latest pronouncement is that Americans are complacent and entitled, especially Californians and New Yorkers. It's not exactly a roadmap to having people think highly of him.

Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by dagmx on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:14AM (#24165872)
People tend to not like to think of others in shades of grey, especially of celebrities.

It's what leads to cult of personality or deep hatred.

Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by aeternum on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:18AM (#24165889)
As an engineer, I see him as an incredibly talented engineer that is also quite good at sales and marketing, but mostly because he talks about stuff like an engineer.

Would most companies even hire him for a salesperson role? Probably not if they've watched his presentations.

Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by nujabe on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:51AM (#24166897)
I'm not sure we've seen any evidence of Musk's 'incredible' engineering skills.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by loceng on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:27AM (#24169104)
Musk says he's doing engineering 80% of the time. If you watch him discuss the products he knows what he's talking about, he's intimately involved - he's not just the standard talking head CEO role.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by xkjkls on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:16PM (#24190071)
Does he? He seems closer to a Steve Jobs type marketer than a Bill Gates type engineer.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by loceng on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:33AM (#24199030)
Why not both? Also, good design and technology markets itself - especially when it's needed.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by sunstone on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:08AM (#24168955)
Did you see two rockets return to earth and land side-by-side?
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by nujabe on Sunday August 16, 2020 @10:40PM (#24183360)
Do you really think Musk had anything to do with engineering design of those rockets? You really think he contributed to the rocket stabilization system or something?
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by aeternum on Monday August 17, 2020 @12:24PM (#24188712)
I do actually. The level at which he can describe each low-level design decision shows he has a deep understanding of rocketry, chemistry, and material science and acts as more of a chief engineer rather than CEO.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by xkjkls on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:16PM (#24190078)
Give me an example. I haven't seen anything even close to the sort.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by aeternum on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:57PM (#24192685)
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by sunstone on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:14AM (#24169002)
It's possible that 'years in the future' Elon Musk will have a public profile similar to Howard Hughes today.
Re:Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving is going to have 'quantum l... by loceng on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:26AM (#24169089)
Arguably he's already comparable, no? I mean he hasn't made a film yet, he also didn't inherit and spend his family's fortune - although yes, he had access to enough resources to build on his own efforts, successes.