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Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Friday August 14, 2020 @07:22PM (#24164434)
Why is Google even interested in Firefox users?

Presumably many/most of those users are not happy with Google/Chrome/advertising/tracking.

If there is some sort of "threat" to Google from Mozilla, this is like Google funding antitrust think tanks. It is difficult to take Mozilla, the organisation not necessarily the work product, seriously.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/us/politics/eric-schmidt-...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/technology/global-antitru...

Neither the (NetBSD) OS nor the GCC compiler I am using, not to mention myriad other programs, needs to be supported by advertising. What makes the "web browser" different?

As the comments on the Register article point out, it seems $400 million/year is how much money it takes to develop/maintain a web browser.

https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/08/14/mozilla_...

Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by kmeisthax on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:01AM (#24165810)
Default settings are fairly lucrative - the reason why Bing and Edge are somehow viable search engines and browsers is purely because Microsoft ships them as default on Windows. Depending on who you ask, Firefox is either the same or double the browser marketshare of Edge, so that default search setting is still lucrative, if only so that Bing, Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo don't get any of that default search traffic.

Also, while lots of people gripe about Google adtech, they aren't angry about it enough to switch search engines. The company still has the best search in the business, specifically because they have a detailed profile on you. Furthermore, they're still moderately trustworthy by tech company standards. At least for me, I'd rather trust Google or Microsoft than, say, Facebook. My biggest concern with any new Google service is less "will I lose control of my data" and more "will this service stay live for longer than a year or two".

Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by twblalock on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:17PM (#24165330)
> Presumably many/most of those users are not happy with Google/Chrome/advertising/tracking.

I wouldn't bet on that. A lot of non-tech-savvy people use Firefox because it was recommended by their nerdy friends.

If funding Mozilla resulted in no return, Google would have realized it by now. They have been doing it for quite a long time.

Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by jhardy54 on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:27PM (#24165371)
> If funding Mozilla resulted in no return, Google would have realized it by now. They have been doing it for quite a long time.

Conspiracy theory: the return on investment is that the active development of Firefox defends Google against anti-trust accusations.

Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by 20after4 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:16AM (#24166159)
Is it really a conspiracy theory? It's almost certainly a significant portion of the equation.
Re:Mozilla signs fresh Google search deal by kolbe on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:36PM (#24165414)
You are not alone in this conspiracy theory. A significant portion of Google’s business right now is to fend of anti-trust accusations.