We are using Convox v2 too and are happy with it, but I'm hesitant to do the upgrade to introduce the complexity of kubernetes to our devs and if convox the right abstraction on top of kubernetes when there which is already a pile of abstractions in k8s itself (and so many other tools to choose from in the k8s universe).

https://github.com/aws/copilot-cli isn't ready for our use cases, but is more or less convox v2 built by AWS.

I remember that... But it was too aws specific. I'll be giving it another look, thank you for pointing that out!

Edit: sadly it's still another layer onto aws/gcp/other... I'll pass again.