Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

Re:Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid ... by mrtksn on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:57AM (#24154202)

Okay, here it is: I want to have single place to manage my payments. As a user, I wouldn't care about the implementation. I wouldn't care about Apple's, Mozilla's or Google's cut. Not good business for you? Tough luck(unless I really want your product, then maybe adjust the price accordingly). What is the difference between App and Website asking for CC? No difference, I hate them both.

As a developer I agree that we shouldn't be forced and restricted to payment methods. My developer opinion is that these payment systems should be considered public utility and should be unified and should work the same for everyone - including Apple. Apple should not be able to have competing products by where they don't pay someone the cut that we pay.

I also think that payments methods shouldn't be able to restrict who we pay. Be it Wikilieaks or whoever we please. That's actually why I am not amused by framing this pity fight over the commission rates as "fight for freedom". It's not fight for freedom, it is cocky businessmen looking to increase their margins.

You know how 99% of the startups fail? Well, maybe they fail because they forget about the user.

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Re:Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid ... by hnra on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:21AM (#24154370)

But how does allowing third party in-app payments remove your ability to use Apple Pay? Apple could even force developers to include Apple Pay but at a 30% markup.

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Re:Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid ... by mrtksn on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:53AM (#24154617)

It creates multiple places to look for payments. Also, if the price is 0.99 vs 1.29 I would feel bad if I opt out for 1.29 with Apple despite the fact that 0.3p isn't changing anything for me but I would feel obligated to enter CC details to get the discount(Yes I know it's not logical but Humans, Aye? If people were logical half of the economy wouldn't be around). It's a friction I don't want to have in my life.

The ideal solution for me is, Apple Pay being an open protocol and I can add payment methods to Apple Pay, can track all payments from a single UI. Then I would be O.K. with being offered %30 discount if I pay with "Epic Card" payment method(form the same payment UI).

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Re:Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid ... by tallanvor on Friday August 14, 2020 @03:23AM (#24154857)

You would feel bad because you would know that Apple isn't providing a service worth 30% of the app's cost, leaving you feeling cheated.

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Re:Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid ... by mrtksn on Friday August 14, 2020 @03:39AM (#24154985)

Not at all, I wouldn't care who gets the money. Often company structure and relationships are complex and many times people who boycott a brand end up buying from the brand owned by the same company.

More importantly, It's a well know that people in the game industry are overworked and underpaid and it's not because of the Apple's cut. I don't know about the situation in Epic, but if it happens that Apple lowers the rates most certainly the difference will go to C level executives(that are not underpaid already).

If Apple gets the money, they at least will pay a decent salary to their people. The game makers can consider cutting bonuses if the money is tight.

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