Based off the responses I got I should written a longer post. I figured with Hawaii it would never be a place to live forever, but maybe a year or two. Spend time checking out all of the islands. Actually getting like really good at surfing. A lot of the stuff I read make it sound unreasonable to actually settle down for a long time there. Family is no where close, not really a great place raise kids?well it's probably fun but not setting them up for success. North shore was an amazing time when I visited... I don't need hip restaurants and nightlife I'm over that.