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Re:Save the USPS by bobmalone123 on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:44AM (#24153568)
It’s the other way around. The more vote by mail, the higher the probability of fraud, and therefore the lower the trust in the results.
Re:Save the USPS by Buttons840 on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:52AM (#24153645)
That's highly debated. My state has voted by mail for at least a decade and I'm not aware of any problems.
Re:Save the USPS by Buttons840 on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:16AM (#24153889)
People will debate whether mail in voting is good or bad, fraudulent or not, etc. That's fine, let them debate, legislate, appeal to courts, etc.

But besides all that: There is simply no scenario where allowing the USPS to half-fail improves the situation.

Even if the USPS was running perfectly, this election would still have unusually low trust, because of the pandemic and because of our especially toxic political climate. Adding a hobbled USPS to the mix makes things much worse.

Lots of people are saying Trump is trying to "muddy the waters" of the election. I suppose Trumps motivation may be debated, but I think the result is clear: A half functioning USPS will "muddy the waters" of the election result. Does anyone disagree that this will be the result? Even if (being charitable) that was not the intention.

Re:Save the USPS by skosch on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:00AM (#24153742)
Please provide credible evidence for this claim.
Re:Save the USPS by hairofadog on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:20AM (#24153931)
Neither of those articles mentions fraud at all. In fact, they strive to point out the problem of under funded postal and electoral systems...
Re:Save the USPS by googthrowaway42 on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:21AM (#24153948)
I don't see where the postal system is the problem in these scenarios. USPS does not print or count ballots

> “We are aware that some of the mailers may have directed the return envelopes to the wrong election offices.”

Nothing is fraud if you're naive/charitable enough in how you interpret things.

Re:Save the USPS by hairofadog on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:26AM (#24153992)
From the article that you posted:

> Ballot-printing firms couldn’t keep up with demand, and the already rickety U.S. Postal Service didn’t move the ballots to and from voters quickly enough.

Re:Save the USPS by Redoubts on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:36AM (#24159287)
> I don't see where the postal system is the problem in these scenarios.

>> Patel said his campaign is looking at thousands of other votes that seem to be missing postmarks entirely—a post-office error

Read your own link.

Re:Save the USPS by Buttons840 on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:19AM (#24153917)
Even if the claim is true, does allowing the post office to half-fail at such a critical time help matters in any way?
Re:Save the USPS by Buttons840 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:12PM (#24165580)
A judge has asked Trump's legal team to submit evidence of mail in voter fraud.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-13/trump-app...

It will be interesting to see what they submit.

Re:Save the USPS by leesalminen on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:53AM (#24153658)
But only for roughly 1/2 of people. For the other half, voting in person would disenfranchise some demographics.