Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by jpxw on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:41PM
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Not only that, but it becomes impossible to tell whether someone in a group benefited by AA is in a given position because of AA, or because of their merit. This is harmful to people in those groups.
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Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by commandlinefan on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:02PM
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I worry about this a lot - my kids are Hispanic (inherited from their Mexican mother), and I honestly don’t know what to tell them when it comes time to check the “race” box for college admissions in a few years. Do they check the “hispanic” box and always wonder if they were just admitted to meet some quota? And no matter what they do, as soon as somebody realizes they have a Hispanic parent, they’ll (reasonably) assume that they did check the Hispanic box.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by throwaway189262 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @08:10PM
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I would check it. It's a free advantage in a competitive application process. The government has plenty of misguided programs that people take advantage of. The law is blind to morals and it's clearly a stupid system, so just close your eyes first if it makes you feel better :)
You shouldn't feel any worse than when you try to minimize your taxes. In a broken system there are no bad actors
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by neutronicus on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:54PM
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The Hispanic box was worth literal tens of thousands of dollars to me over my lifetime.
If they're going to fall on that sword make sure it's their own choice and not yours.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by ucgradtemp on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:30AM
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Research has shown that heavy AA can lead to a mismatch between the putative beneficiaries and their peers. As a result, these students are more likely to end up in the bottom of their class (IIRC, 50% of black students at top law schools ended up in the bottom 10% of their class, and AA beneficiaries who planned to major in STEM were more likely to change to a non-STEM major).
So it is also possible that a preference that helps your kids get into a school could actually end up hurting them if they end up outmatched by their classmates.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by travisoneill1 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:37PM
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Check the hispanic box. The system is unfair and racist, but it makes the most sense to take advantage of it.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by hardwaregeek on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:11PM
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I find this a really odd point because you could say the same about people with any sort of privilege. Did Jack Welch succeed because of his intelligence or because of his race/gender? Well, a little of column A and a little of column B. White dudes do have an easier time in the business world. Should we discredit all successful white male businessmen? No, of course not. Why is it any different with minorities and Affirmative Action? Some people have privilege by circumstance and others have privilege by design. So be it.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by Larrikin on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:51PM
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It's only harmful when people assume that they couldn't have gotten the job or in the school without it and don't look at their merit.
Re:Feds say Yale discriminates against Asian, white applicants
by loco5niner on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:14PM
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Which is what naturally ends up happening when affirmative action gets out of hand.