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Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by skizm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:43PM (#24148764)
Agreed it shouldn't be illegal, but Apple (or any hardware / software maker) should be allowed to do everything in their power to make this extremely inconvenient by putting in hardware blocks, bricking logic, updating their software regularly with new obfuscation techniques, etc. and also, voiding the warranty if there is evidence of tampering with hardware or software.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by swiley on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:45PM (#24148798)
I understand where you’re coming from and would be ok if it were easy (or even possible) for the community to build an alternative device but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

The technical and social reality that giving apple the freedom to configure the majority of devices in the US is extremely unpleasant. Enough that it makes me question the principles driving the philosophy that allowed this (in particular, the legality of closed software.)

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by young_unixer on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:32PM (#24149605)
> if it were easy (or even possible) for the community to build an alternative device but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

One of the main roadblocks is intellectual property law. If IP didn't exist, there would be all sorts of iPhone clones with modified versions of iOS.

I'm OK with closed source software being legal, prohibiting closed source would be tyrannical. What I'm not OK is with software patents, copyright, anti-hardware-hacking laws, etc.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by ubercow13 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:45PM (#24149784)
Why should any company be allowed to intentionally brick a product I own because I am doing something legal with it that they don't like?
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by ntsplnkv2 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:01PM (#24150008)
The same reason you have to have a car pass emissions in some states.

We can't deny the security that apple provides over other providers. Part of that is the closed garden - it SHOULD BE a product. The market should provide alternatives.

The only people that benefit from this are big companies - small software devs will have their apps devalued by this move, and the people will just get ripped off more when Epic wins and raises their dumb scam Vbucks to 10$.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by growse on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:21PM (#24150988)
Emissions laws are put in place by representatives of the people, for the common good.

Apple saying that I'm not allowed to step outside their walled garden on a device I own is restricting my freedom.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by ntsplnkv2 on Friday August 14, 2020 @09:36AM (#24157741)
You can easily argue the walled garden is for their user's common good, which it is. Less malware, safer experience, easier to use for less technically savvy people.

> Apple saying that I'm not allowed to step outside their walled garden on a device I own is restricting my freedom.

Only if there is no remediation - there is. Buy an android and quit moaning. "Freedoms." Laughable. Belarus is shooting people and you're mad because you can't force a company to do what you want when the free market can easily solve the problem.

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by ubercow13 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:51AM (#24159501)
You could argue that Microsoft bundling IE was 'for their user's common good' just the same. It was certainly nice and convenient, and made Windows easier to use. And it wasn't restricting anyone's freedom, because they could just use Unix instead.

Except none of those things are the point of antitrust law. But I guess who cares anyway, when genocide is always worse than these things, so we shouldn't care about them?

Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by skizm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:49PM (#24149846)
They wouldn’t brick anything actively. You bought a product that bricks under certain conditions. You know that when you buy it.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store by stale2002 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:55PM (#24148976)
It has been well established for almost a hundred years now, that anti-competitive behavior is illegal, and will be prosecuted against.