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Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by dominotw on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:12AM (#24144154)
1. super charging network

2. brand name , a car is still a status symbol, owning a bmw, kia ect is not a social signal.

3. autonomous driving and software

Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by fxtentacle on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:22AM (#24144277)
Most people in Germany consider BMW and Porsche to be highly prestigious, while Tesla is seen as a wannabe hipster toy. If you consider that most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW for 20 years, that kinda makes sense.
Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by dominotw on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:09PM (#24144879)
> most CEOs are 40+ and have driven BMW

This precisely proves the point i was trying to make, thank you :)

BMW, Mercedes ect represent old school "money is everything" mentality. Porsche is famously a "doubhebag" car

https://www.gq.com/gallery/douche-cars-jamie-lincoln-kitman

Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by actuator on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:14AM (#24144191)
Wait, I must have missed something. Is BMW's image bad? That wouldn't explain them able to survive some of the high price points, they sell cars at.
Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by p_l on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:27AM (#24144344)
Depends which BMW :D

In Poland, BMW can mean "expensive luxury sports car", or "Bolid Młodzieży Wiejskiej", a pejorative name that means "Village Youth Vehicle", as a lot of used BMW from specific series were available cheap and with good performance. To the point that road police started stopping cars based on them being specific BMW models.

Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by actuator on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:31AM (#24144381)
I think this sort of image, high end car plays like Jaguar, Lexus avoid to an extent. I don't see how Tesla would maintain an edge of luxury over them if they can get good performance in their EVs.
Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:55AM (#24144707)
He said social signal, not status symbol.

Both cars say something about how much money you make. It's the other stuff that's different.

Re:Tesla Gets Crushed in Germany by EVs from Volkswagen, Ren... by dominotw on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:15PM (#24144948)
Its not its bad, different type of signaling.

BMW = money is king, capitalism, golden toilet, 1990, closed minded to new things.

Tesla = environmentally conscious, "i care" , forward looking, open to trying new things.