> Astronomers don't own space.

OK, but neither does SpaceX, right?

If I make a mess of public lands, I can get in trouble. The international legal framework around the use of space has clear holes in it - it still focuses around nation state actions with little consideration to commercial use - and there's nothing wrong with talking about that.

It’s really sad that something as universal and beautiful as the night sky is now something to be pissed on. Pretty much a perfect example to demonstrate that “tech people” are amoral assholes. I hope the satellites all burn up.

Starlink isn’t visible in the night sky. It’s satellites are in such low orbits they spend Tye night in the earths shadow, where they are invisible. They are only visible on the horizon at dawn/dusk, where there is actual sunlight to reflect.

Lastly the latest version of Starlink satellites has a shade visor that reduces reflection enough to make them invisible even at dawn/dusk.

I have seen them with my own eyes. And they are currently at what, 1% of expected deployment? And when amazon and who-knows-who-else puts up their constellation?

Again, you can’t see them when it’s night without magnification. And with visors you can’t see them at dawn or dusk.

Please don't do this here.

Do what? Point out the petulance and inconsistency of astronomers?

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