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Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by LMYahooTFY on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:08AM (#24142925)
>All it took was one person willing to burn their career to provide the proof.

This is wrong. It took a LOT more than that. It took one man forgoing his life and liberty, and a group of people endangering theirs to assist him. Snowdon is not going to get his life nor his liberty back, ever.

It took multiple institutions dedicated to publishing the truth to actually bring the news to a wide audience, and it didn't end without a degree of betrayal.

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by amiga_500 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:10AM (#24142952)
I think he understated it, and your "wrong" is too strong. The main point is people had to actually step up, and when Snowden did this, we had some truth for a bit.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by LMYahooTFY on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:57AM (#24144724)
I disagree. The statement 'all it took was...' addresses one part of his life which many people change with some regularity. A career.

Snowden is currently in political exile and probably closely monitored, likely for the rest of his life. US congressmen have openly called for his assassination. If he were to return to this country it's highly likely he would spend the rest of his life in a federal prison, at best.

Please explain how 'all it took was for someone to burn their career' isn't utterly misconstruing the cost being addressed?

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by maerF0x0 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:49AM (#24143284)
> willing to burn their career to provide the proof.

This should have been the case as in normal whistleblower cases. Seems it was not. I also suspect that Russia will eventually try and call the favor to coerce him to do something for them

EDIT: had no idea this would be so negatively viewed. If you're going to down vote please indicate what you're against...

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by ctack on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:56AM (#24143358)
Him being there makes Russia look more tolerant than his home country.. Which is already a Pretty big bonus.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by maerF0x0 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:30AM (#24144370)
His continued reliance on Russia gives them more than enough power to force his hand into something he may not otherwise do.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by nyolfen on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:16PM (#24150921)
what might he do? write another book? he doesn't have any power besides moral authority and he cannot travel internationally
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by leetcrew on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:22AM (#24143598)
how does giving asylum to a defector from an adversary make russia look tolerant? don't you think the US would happily do the same thing if the tables were turned?
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by boomboomsubban on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:36AM (#24143756)
The US routinely does the same, and they generally receive some amount of praise from the population as a result. The same thing would happen in Russia.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by JackFr on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:24AM (#24143621)
At this point is there a compelling heuristic we can use to determine if Snowden is an idealistic whistleblower or simply a Russian intelligence asset? The facts seem to support both interpretations.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by boomboomsubban on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:39AM (#24143784)
The facts absolutely do not support either interpretation. The only reason Snowden is in Russia is that the US canceled his passport.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by JackFr on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:09PM (#24145612)
They revoked his passport because he's a fugitive, formally charged with two counts of violating the Espionage Act. I think the reason he's Russia is that they don't have an extradition treaty with the United States.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by nyolfen on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:19PM (#24150952)
he was stuck in the moscow airport (for over a month) after his passport was cancelled en route to equador and was eventually granted asylum
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by jessaustin on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:31PM (#24147411)
This sounds like some sort of nutty conspiracy theory.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by boomboomsubban on Thursday August 13, 2020 @10:31AM (#24143696)
What possible use could Snowden provide Russia?
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by maerF0x0 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:28AM (#24144359)
I'm not certain at this point. His skills? His voice/platform? for example if he were to come forth and say something plausible but false many would just believe him.
Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by boomboomsubban on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:56PM (#24151445)
He has a fairly small number of supporters, very few of which hold any power, and are some of the most aware of government interference. Russia will be fine with what they (presumably) already coerce him to do, pay taxes.

And as for why your post was down voted, you stated that a whistleblower should lose their career for their uncovering the truth.