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Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by aaron695 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:48AM (#24141236)
> The schooling system, with its grades, signed slips, and whatnot, is set up through extrinsic motivation to teach obedience, conformity, and smothering the intrinsic drive so necessary for the creative work we will expect from the children later in life.

We finish 50 million kids in school each year.

100's of millions have been through the US system alone over it's history.

If this was simply true then I feel like there'd be some evidence by now.

Yes we can do better schooling for some kids, and yes there are certainly improvements, but after 100's of year of doing it, it's not going to be a country wide system of let kids just have more freedom.

The best improvement we know of is cohorts matter. Which is a zero sum game.

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by rubidium on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:56AM (#24143357)
I don’t think anyone is encouraging total unstructured freedom.

I went to a school without grades. It encourages cultivating a love of learning. There was concrete feedback on quality of work and assessments of knowledge (tests). But no public grading scale. It’s been awarded 3 blue ribbon awards and consistently outperformed its grading-based peers.

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by aaron695 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:28PM (#24148441)
I know it's a lame answer because I can answer it to most new schooling concepts

Cohorts.

If all the students you schooled with could easily come from the other available systems and your school could only expel them at the same rates as the other schools I'd be happier.

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by betterunix2 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:27AM (#24143094)
Actually the modern concept of a school was developed to train people for industrial jobs, where they would have to follow instructions and a schedule set by their superiors -- hence the strict scheduling, the rank-and-file arrangement of classrooms, and so forth. Prior to the industrial revolution most children did not go to a formal schools, and would receive their education from parents and tutors, or by some other ad-hoc arrangements. In some parts of the world it was common for traveling teachers to board with a family for some time and educate the children.