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Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by cycomanic on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:44AM (#24140928)
The finish system seems to get this mostly right, from what I've read. No clear age based classes, group work across traditional class boundaries, older kids helping the younger ones. They also seem to get excellent results based on the Pisa studies.

Mind you, this is from reading about it, I don't have first hand experience how the system works. I can however attest to the effectiveness of tutoring in higher education. Tutors (typically grad students) often understand much better the subtle points that are difficult to understand in a topic, I guess because it's been more recent that they have learnt it. There also seems to be less reluctance for students to ask questions of their tutor then their lecturer.

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by simonh on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:04AM (#24141033)
Come on Finns of HN, we know you're out there. What's your experience of this?
Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by lxrbst on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:45AM (#24141226)
The Finnish school system is nice, until you wanna go to college/university.

I think higher education in Finland isn't anything special, if you actually want a quality education you'll have to go abroad (like the actually successful people do here anyway). Even the arguably best schools aren't that good. People mostly coast through them once they get in and just want the piece of paper at the end. Good parties though.

Years later in the work force they'll wake up and see they barely make more money then an electrician with their fancy degree because of the insane tax policies here. What's the point of having a nice degree if you're still gonna have a moderately low salary compared to other European countries?

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by e12e on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:53AM (#24141269)
> What's the point of having a nice degree if you're still gonna have a moderately low salary compared to other European countries?

Interesting comment in a thread about intrinsic and extrinsic motivation...

Re:Young children would rather explore than get rewards by simonh on Thursday August 13, 2020 @07:10AM (#24142061)
It's not an either or though. Just because a company generates good extrinsic motivation by paying well, that doesn't mean its impossible for them to also foster intrinsic motivation too. It's really not unreasonable to ask for both.