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Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by mNovak on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @01:15PM (#24134278)
Seems like an awfully large oversight to reuse the encryption key between subsequent calls.

I wonder if this works when leaving voicemail in the second call? Since the approach requires a long call for a long decryption, dialing straight to voicemail would be non-cooperative and avoid alerting the victim until after.

Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by jschwartzi on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @01:26PM (#24134427)
Voicemail goes to a different place and may not even get you routed to the user’s cell.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by microcolonel on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @03:09PM (#24135600)
It's something so stupid I have to imagine it is deliberate.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by tinus_hn on Friday August 14, 2020 @09:19AM (#24157535)
The argument typically is that good encryption causes the call setup time to be too long and costs battery life, but this indeed is an exceptionally dumb flaw.

Unless you know what you’re doing it’s hard to test for though, and if you know what you’re doing you wouldn’t make this kind of mistake.

Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by 1231asra on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:58PM (#24170314)
Somewhat true, but standards could assist developers with adequate test vectors, explanations and reminders why X or Y is important.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by kanobo on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:58PM (#24134053)
The illustrations are very charming. Here's the android app to test if your station is vulnerable: https://github.com/RUB-SysSec/mobile_sentinel
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by unixhero on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @01:25PM (#24134411)
Wouldn't you get into massive amounts of trouble for running this on an operators commercial network?
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by jaywalk on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @02:59PM (#24135515)
This doesn't run on the network at all, so no. You're just listening to radio signals that are already out there.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by jandrese on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @01:49PM (#24134721)
Only if its detectable.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by wyxuan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:22PM (#24133622)
Whats with the alternating caps in the title? Is it to be sarcastic?
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by chrisseaton on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:27PM (#24133679)
* Voice over Long-Term Evolution

* Voice over LTE

* VoLTE

* key-REuse VoLTE

* ReVoLTE

* Call Me Maybe: Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE

* Call Me Maybe: Ea­Ves­Drop­Ping En­Cryp­Ted LTE Calls with Re­VoL­TE

Researchers are trying to make their work memorable by using marketing techniques like these. I assume the title on HN (which isn't the same as the article) is mocking it.

Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by stingraycharles on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:26PM (#24133660)
FWIW, its not in the title of the article, just the HN title. Mods should change it probably.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by pronoiac on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:47PM (#24133898)
True. I emailed the mods.
Re:Ea­ves­drop­ping En­cryp­ted LTE Calls With Re­VoL­TE by dang on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @02:40PM (#24135300)
Changed now. Submitted title was "Call Me Maybe: Ea­Ves­Drop­Ping En­Cryp­Ted LTE Calls with Re­VoL­TE".