TSA considers new system for flyers without ID

Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by jedberg on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:57PM (#24125889)

As a side note, not sure where in CA you live, but I had to renew my license last month (it expired) so I went and got a realID. I waited two minutes in line without an appointment and was completely done after 25 minutes. The whole process was efficient and I never came within six feet of another human.

I did all my paperwork online which gave me the cut in line pass, and I went to a special "License only" DMV. There is one in San Jose, and probably others throughout the state.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by komali2 on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @05:13PM (#24126048)

San Jose? I'll drive down and try this. I'm in San Francisco. Last time I went to the downtown one, saw a line around the block, went to Daly City, saw the same, and gave up. I tried scheduling appointment and they were booked out for something insane like 6 months lol.

So I just renewed my Texas ID online in 5 minutes, slapped my California address on it, and called it a day. The other day I got pulled over and the cop wasn't too happy about it though, said I had to carry my CA id to demonstrate that I'm allowed to drive in California. Silly but whatever.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by jedberg on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @05:18PM (#24126095)

Unless you have a reason to go, your wait at an SF DMV will be less than the 1.75 hour trip, unless you like driving. :)

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/field-office/san-jose-driver-l...

They even have graphs with historical wait times so you can time it for a low point.

But the big key is filling out the paperwork online. That is what gets you the cut in line pass. I passed a 30 minute line with that.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by thephyber on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @06:04PM (#24126560)

> They even have graphs with historical wait times so you can time it for a low point.

I no longer trust those measurements.

Needing to visit the DMV for whatever paperwork (maybe in-person license renewal), I checked the DMV website. One of the local offices had a very short wait time compared to all of the others (maybe 5 minutes versus 1hr+). I went to the office with the short wait time displayed on the website only to find out they had a ridiculously long line outside the office to get the ticket, which starts the timer. They were gaming the per-customer timer by metering the rate at which customers outside the building could enter the building to get the ticket.

I thought it was both terrible and creative at the same time. Decent example of Goodhart's Law[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by jedberg on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:53PM (#24127293)

I don't trust the estimates online either, but I do trust the relative data within each DMV. So I think the graphs that tell you number of people per hour are relatively correct and can be used to predict how busy a DMV will be.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by Keverw on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @06:47PM (#24126893)

Texas lets you put a California address on IDs? Didn't even know that was possible. I thought states only allowed IDs with addresses in the same state? Do they not validate their forms? I know they are suppose to match where you domicile, so a California address on a Texas ID does sound like a red flag.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by komali2 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:54AM (#24133303)

I've done it twice /shrug

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by Keverw on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:31AM (#24140225)

Interesting, looked it up and found a thing saying that military personnel and their spouse or dependents are allowed to have an address outside of Texas on their Texas licenses and IDs. So I guess I learned something new haha.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by throwaway987978 on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @05:51PM (#24126452)

You're now able to upload your documents online and you'll be able to print out an Express Entry document that lets you skip the line. I went to Daly City last week and I was in and out in about 20 minutes.

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