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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by DiogenesKynikos on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @05:07AM (#24118551)
It's owned by ByteDance, not the CPC.
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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by endogui on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:03AM (#24119093)
ButeDance is a Chinese company responsible for complying with directives from the CCP. If one doesn't trust the CCP, then one should not trust ByteDance.
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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by coldcode on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:35AM (#24119255)
Facebook is American company responsible for complying with directives from the US Government. If one doesn't trust the US, then one should not trust Facebook.

How is this any different? The US is one of the Five Eyes countries. They routinely spy on their own people (see Snowdon et al). I see no difference between the two in this regard, other than the US has a court system that sometimes acts independently and has a Constitution that sometimes is followed.

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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by sumedh on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:43AM (#24119297)
> If one doesn't trust the US, then one should not trust Facebook.

Which is why Facebook is not allowed in China.

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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by La1n on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:58AM (#24119795)
Because it doesn't comply with local laws. What law does tiktok not comply with?
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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by sumedh on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @09:07AM (#24119879)
Which local Chinese law is FB not complying with?
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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by sbmthakur on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @11:31AM (#24121392)
I guess the one that mandates their participation in Chinese government's national intelligence activities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Law

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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by La1n on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @09:16AM (#24119951)
Supposedly facebook did not comply to handing over data on rioters/terrorists after the riots in 2009 which caused hundreds of deaths.
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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by joubert on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:25AM (#24119564)
Isn't it a matter of degree?

For example, do individuals in the US not enjoy more freedom (of speech) than individuals in China?

Isn't it worth supporting and enhancing one regime and fight against the other (at least on this dimension)?

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Re:TikTok to Sue U.S. over Ban by abc-xyz on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @09:40AM (#24120129)
> ByteDance has had a party committee since 2017 and is headed by CCP secretary and company editor-in-chief Zhang Fuping (張輔評), reported Human Rights Watch. Members of the committee hold regular gatherings at which they study speeches by Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping (習近平) and "pledge to follow the party in technological innovation."

> In addition, ByteDance on April 25, 2019, signed a strategic cooperation agreement with the Ministry of Public Security's Press and Publicity Bureau (公安部新聞宣傳局) in Beijing. The agreement was billed as "aiming to give full play to the professional technology and platform advantages of Toutiao and Tiktok in big data analysis," strengthen the creation and production of "public security new media works," boost "network influence and online discourse power," and enhance "public security propaganda, guidance, influence, and credibility," among other aspects.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3982027

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