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Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by pjmlp on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:15AM (#24118273)
Yeah, lets not pay the others for the fruits of their labour.
Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by coldtea on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:48AM (#24119329)
People don't automatically deserve payment for the "fruits of their labour". Only if you use it and can't find a better/cheaper alternative.

What the parent suggested was not using QT and not paying the company that makes it, but that its price makes it unusable for their purposes.

(Now, that might have been based on a misunderstanding of the licensing involved, but ignoring that, the point still stands. If one had to pay $5000 for a GUI library, and one didn't have $5000, then one could look elsewhere...).

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by pjmlp on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:09AM (#24119457)
Except that look elsewhere seems to be understood as free beer around here.

$5000 is not the price for small developers by the way.

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by beojan on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:29AM (#24119587)
It would be misleading to call Qt the fruits of the labour of (the current) Qt Company.

It is licensed under the LGPL though (however much its current owners may want to change this, they can't because of the KDE Free Qt agreement), which means you don't have to pay. All you have to do is dynamically link to the library instead of statically linking.

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by pjmlp on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @09:27AM (#24120046)
It is surely more than those leeching Qt for their own projects.

The major contributors for Qt have always been the same regardless of the legal name of Qt owner.

It is quite easy decision process, don't want to pay for Qt's development, use LGPL and GPL variants earn as much money as one is willing to give upstream.

Decide to go commercial, then pay accordingly upstream.

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by beojan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @03:05AM (#24129326)
I think you misunderstand me, I think the LGPL is a perfectly good license for Qt and I have little sympathy for those who aren't willing to abide by it (not least because Qt is a rather large library, and there's no excuse for every application to load its own copy).

> Decide to go commercial, then pay accordingly upstream.

Hmm. The commercial license actually prohibits starting development under one of the open source licenses then switching to commercial. If you start under an open source license, you'll need to abide by the LGPL if you decide to go closed source (and of course what you've already released remains open source).

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by jmnicolas on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:41AM (#24118422)
5 grands is twice my yearly disposable income. Yeah let's go into debt for my side projects.
Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by josefx on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @05:22AM (#24118610)
The small business license is $499 and you only have to pay that if you want to statically link against QT without dealing with the LGPL. Dynamic linking Qt is the default, costs $0 and doesn't incur the wrath of the LGPL.
Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by michaelsbradley on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @06:31AM (#24118936)
Static linking also costs $0 if you comply with the terms of the LGPL:

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#LGPLStaticVsDyn...

Note that does not necessarily require “your code” to be/come open source.

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by mmargerum on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @07:25AM (#24119196)
Is that $499 per platform? I'm using Lazarus right now (after QT sticker shock). It's pretty good and free. I rather like object pascal. TMS has a webcore product that runs out of Visual studio (non free) which is also object pascal and generates an html/js SPA. i'm not affiliated with them at all. Just a fan.
Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by josefx on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:00AM (#24119406)
Per developer and I think that covers all mobile and desktop platforms.
Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by jmnicolas on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @08:22AM (#24119537)
Thanks, I didn't know that. I looked at QT 4 or 5 years ago and dismissed too quickly apparently.

Wasn't there talks about ending the lgpl version ? I thought I read somewhere that KDE devs were quite worried.

Re:Golang Desktop App with Webview/Lorca, WASM and Bazel by josefx on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @11:12AM (#24121130)
There are agreements with kde that prevent the Qt company from outright dropping free licenses: https://kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php

As far as I can tell from that the LGPLv3 seems to be required under the current terms of the agreement.