Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by maxk42 on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:59PM
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To answer your first "Why?" it's because employees have to be paid much more when working over 40 hours / week. Drivers will no longer be able to work an extra 5 hours when they need extra money: They'll have to have a second job. Similarly, there are certain minimum costs associated with each employee above and beyond the costs of a contractor. This may mean Uber is forced to favor drivers who commit to a certain minimum of hours per week, ridding themselves of the "before and after work" driver crowd. The net effect of these two forces means Uber will just be another part-to-full-time job.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by jojobas on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:08PM
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Basically you're arguing that the race to the bottoms is good for everyone involved.
From a country that has hard fought-for USD16/hour minimum wage, paid 10 sick leave and 20 annual leave days per year, this doesn't appear true at all.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by LudwigNagasena on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @12:44AM
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How does allowing flexible work arrangement imply “race to the bottom”?
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by jojobas on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @01:02AM
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Nothing precludes proper employees with flexible arrangements. Forfeiting overtime pay and other labor protections afforded by law are definitely race-to-the-bottomy.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by LudwigNagasena on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @01:33AM
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Nothing precludes contractors having labor protections either.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri...
by seankimdesign on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @03:52AM
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What a tasteless and tortured analogy. I'm sure the slaves hated being freed as much as my brother will be when they tell him that he needs to drive X minimum hours a week to keep his employment status with Uber/Lyft. More realistically, there probably won't be an Uber/Lyft left to drive for if this ruling sticks. God knows they're already bleeding funds as we speak. There's no way they'll stay afloat.
No matter how you want to spin this, it's not going to be a victory for the majority of the drivers. Let us, in our high and mighty chair, obliterate a burgeoning industry filled with people voluntarily making money on their own time. Let the taxi medallions flow back in its stead. Problem solved - slavery is no more.
Why? Uber is still free to let them choose if they choose so.
>Going forward people who want to drive for Uber will have to interview like any other job
Why? Uber would be free to hire without interview.
>this will bring a big improvement in quality of life
That's the point.
>The rest will be out of a job
It was deemed that this kind of a job is not worth having people in, often being below minimum wage and with no protection. In a bit of hyperbole, abolition took jobs from slaves as well.