One in 10 ballots rejected in last month’s vote-by-mail elections in New Jersey

Re:One in 10 ballots rejected in last month’s vote-by-mail e... by dane-pgp on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:02PM (#24115151)

> The point is that you aren't going to stop someone determined to commit evil by making it slightly more administratively difficult.

"Both Mayor Karrer and Bishop Chrysostomos were quickly summoned to appear before the German Commandant, where they were ordered to immediately prepare the list of all the Jewish residents of Zakynthos. ... In a great display of courage and defiance to the powerful occupiers of Greece, the mayor and the bishop handed a simple piece of paper to the Nazi commander. On that scrap of paper, only two names were written: Mayor Loukas Kerrer and Bishop Chrysostomos."

https://greece.greekreporter.com/2020/01/25/the-unimaginable...

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Re:One in 10 ballots rejected in last month’s vote-by-mail e... by slg on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:15PM (#24115297)

The paper with the two names on it makes for a great story, but it sounds more like that was their public proclamation of the community's actions. What really saved those people was their neighbors hiding them to the point that the article says they "disappeared". In that instance having some names on a piece of paper or in a database in meaningless. The important part is fighting the evil with direction action like this community did.

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Re:One in 10 ballots rejected in last month’s vote-by-mail e... by pessimizer on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:53PM (#24115647)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

"In the book, published in 2001, Black outlined the way in which IBM's technology helped facilitate Nazi genocide through generation and tabulation of punch cards based upon national census data."

I always find it strange how people consider the possibility of certain events far-fetched to the point of irrationality that have already happened.

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Re:One in 10 ballots rejected in last month’s vote-by-mail e... by slg on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:14PM (#24115801)

I feel like I am repeating myself now. The point is not that these tools can't be used for evil. The point is that banning these tools does not prevent evil.

Would the Holocaust have happened without IBM's participation?

Would the Holocaust have happened if punch cards were banned?

Would the Holocaust have happened if the Nazis didn't have census data?

The answer to those questions is an obvious yes. These logistical obstacles would have been nothing but a mild inconvenience for the Nazi death machine.

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