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Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by distant_hat on Monday August 10, 2020 @04:12AM (#24106784)
Why not cook everything at that point and throw a feast. We've done this in India with an extended power cut.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by avhon1 on Monday August 10, 2020 @04:38AM (#24106920)
If their stove and oven are electric, and they don't have, or don't have fuel for, a propane or charcoal grill, then a hurricane could really knock out their ability to cook things.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by 0xBA5ED on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:05AM (#24107096)
Then again, hurricanes provide a lot of readily available wood debris.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by KMag on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:49AM (#24107371)
Freshly downed live trees aren't great for firewood. The moisture content tends to make the wood difficult to light (if you can't spare lighter fluid, diesel, gasoline, candles, etc.) and it tends to produce a lot of smoke once lit. I've done enough camping that I can get wet wood burning if I have enough dry twigs, dry pine needles, birch bark, etc., but if your only experience with starting fires is pouring lighter fluid on split wood that has been dried 2+ years, you're going to have a bad time trying to get wet wood burning using only things you find in a forest after a storm.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by MereInterest on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:55AM (#24107765)
And anything used in construction has been heavily treated to resist water damage, so I wouldn't want to be near those fumes, let alone eat something cooked from them.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by kps on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:34AM (#24109680)
Regular construction SPF isn't treated, and doesn't resist anything; that costs extra.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by spcebar on Monday August 10, 2020 @01:06PM (#24111510)
I would say definitely better safe than sorry, especially if you're not sure how to identify pressure treated wood.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by dghughes on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:10AM (#24108846)
It may be OK after the smoke clears. Rookies who have never used a real charcoal BBQ don't know when the coals are ready and start cooking too soon. You cook when it seems like it's too late the coals are ash but that's the time to do it.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by MertsA on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:06PM (#24110731)
He's talking about treated wood which is the exception. I wouldn't cook off of burning plywood or OSB but the smoke shouldn't be that toxic. Often the bottom plate of a wall will be pressure treated wood which is filled with all sorts of nasty preservatives and stuff from before 2004 was almost all treated with chromated copper arsenate. That's got a hexavalent Chromium compound (carcinogenic) along with Arsenic pentoxide (highly toxic) plus a dash of Copper because apparently the Arsenic and hexavalent Chromium weren't bad enough.

I would not cook on burning pressure treated lumber, but the vast majority of lumber in construction is not pressure treated.

Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by dkn775 on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:01AM (#24109314)
So when the coals are pure white, that's when to start cooking?
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by thechao on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:45AM (#24109800)
White & glowing. You're trying to drive off all the black bits.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by KMag on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @12:00AM (#24117043)
Well, you're not driving off the "black bits". There's still plenty of "black bits" (unburned carbon and high-carbon compounds) in the interior. It's just that 1. you really really want to wait until the lighter fluid is burned off and 2. the whole surface hasn't started burning until the whole surface has started generating white ash. In the case of charcoal with igniter integrated in the outer layer ("match light" charcoal), I would guess you want to burn off that outer igniter layer.

As a young boy scout of 12 or so, I ate some pork that my patrol and I had cooked over charcoal before all of the lighter fluid had burned off. It tasted like lighter fluid smells. We never made that mistake again.

Pro tip from 12 year-old me: styrofoam cooler lids make great fans to speed the progression of the reaction.

Pro tip 2 from 12 year-old me: don't get the lid too close to the charcoal, or it will melt. Also, wet wool finger mittens can cook and become brittle far from a wet wood fire, because the fire gets very hot when you blow on it to keep it from going out and very cool when you go to check the temperature near your mittens.

Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by dkn775 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:58AM (#24143376)
What if I am using regular charcoal without any lighter fluid because I have a chimney? Still wait for complete white on the Exterior right?
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by 0xBA5ED on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:32AM (#24109661)
My point is, you don't suddenly lose the ability to cook things when you don't have electricity, propane, or charcoal.
Re:How long does a freezer stay frozen when the power goes out? by HumblyTossed on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:00AM (#24108775)
Nothing you'd want to burn.

Best advice is during hurricane season keep freezer and refrigerator stock to a minimum to keep your losses low. Stock up on non-perishables, but not overstock.

If you absolutely must have cold stuff while the power is out, either get a generator or look into 12V gear.