What are the missing features in App Engine?

Posted by surendra_sedhai on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @08:36AM
from the self-post dept.

i think fulltext search is very fundamental and essential thing for a web application . i put a lot of effort to bring fulltext search to my site.

what are things which are essential for a web application is not present in App Engine?

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by miloco on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @09:08AM (#2410749)

Ability to backup and restore the datastore via the dashboard. This is long overdue. I know the bulkloader exists but it's hardly ideal.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by surendra_sedhai on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @03:42AM (#2414260)

Yes, datastore backup and restore using bulkloader is not comfortable. For getting backup in local machine i am using bulkloader. However, i am doing online backup using backup(dummy) appengine project. I am coping data back and forth between production and backup projects for backup and restore purpose. Its comparatively easier.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by vanni on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @10:41AM (#2411119)

SSL access on non-appspot.com domains, i.e. HTTPS on custom domains (on their roadmap, BTW)

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by europa on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @10:45AM (#2411131)

Oauth or Authsub for appengine operations.

For example I want to deploy an app on appengine for a user without asking him his userid and a password.

Use case: User comes to a site. Search for available applications to install. Click install; give permission, application installed to his appengine account.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by znt on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @03:42PM (#2412403)

An API for accessing dynamic instances would be so useful for me. I'm developing a library with layered model storage (local cache,memcache, datastore) and cached query functionality on App Engine and using the power of local cache forces me to do some heavy cache invalidation.

If only there was a way to loop through all instances and refresh/invalidate values.

Here's the project if you're interested: https://github.com/ocanbascil/Performance-AppEngine

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by QuantumDoja on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @10:57AM (#2411173)

1. At first for me it was a centralized database, If two apps want to access the same data, what are you going to do? We got around it by making an API.

2. A module for google checkout, I'm still trying to find a Python one for PayPal.

3. +1 For the HTTPS on custom domains

4. +1 To import and export databases

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by MatthewPhillips on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @09:02AM (#2410732)

Not sure I'd call them essential but my 3 biggest pet peeves:

1) No threading. I feel they could find a way to sandbox these without hurting performance.

2) No support for the WebSocket API.

3) No support for Go. This one is a bigger mystery to me; seems like a win-win for the community and for Google.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by evangineer on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @09:53AM (#2410906)

+1 on WebSockets.

Go isn't stable enough yet. There's a new release every month or so and weekly snapshot releases available.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by europa on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @10:25AM (#2411048)

Is channel api not close to Websocket?

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by MatthewPhillips on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @12:42PM (#2411605)

Channel API is just comet.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by europa on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @01:07PM (#2411730)

Thanks. I stand corrected.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by runjake on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @11:09AM (#2411212)

Stability & speed. My apps randomly kick out various HTTP 500 errors. Sometimes database speed isn't so slick.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by miloco on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @12:10PM (#2411470)

Are you using the new HR datastore? Since I switched reliability has been great.

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by runjake on Tuesday April 05, 2011 @01:34PM (#2411854)

No, but I will give it a try with a test build, thanks!

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by surendra_sedhai on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @03:20AM (#2414220)

HR datastore looks much better

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Re:What are the missing features in App Engine? by surendra_sedhai on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @03:22AM (#2414222)

What about version controlling system in appengine?

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