Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by baryphonic on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:24AM (#24105550)

I don't disagree with any of this at all; in fact I'd piggy back and go further: the Chinese Communist Party is increasingly a totalitarian regime. Whereas Vladimir Putin and the Russian oligarchs are mostly interested in preserving their power and wealth, and threatening/assaulting/murdering the people who get in the way, the Chinese Communist Party regime seems to have much broader goals. From the Falun Gong persecution to the Uighur concentration camps to the ultra-nationalist propaganda now taught in PRC schools to even the land grabs (and land "creation") the PLA Navy has engaged in, the ambitions of the Chinese Communist Party seem truly limitless in the way Nazi Germany's and the Soviet Union's did.

(This reads as a criticism and almost a "well, aktshually" kind of a post, but I truly don't intend it as such. If anything, it's a stronger warning to Chinese ex-pats: be very careful what you say because the regime's tentacles are numerous and reach far. Not that Chinese citizens don't already know that, though.)

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by iabacu on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:39AM (#24105609)

Xi Jinping and the CCP’s official goal is for the Chinese people and everyone else to have a common destiny.

Interpret these how you wish, because they are interpreting these how they wish.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by throwaway-semi on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:56AM (#24105686)

There are definitely Han-supremacy fascist elements. Xi Jingpin's speeches have a clever interplay between sounding patriotic and whilst edging into aforementioned motifs.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by dqpb on Monday August 10, 2020 @01:20AM (#24105823)

How does force sterilizing of Uighurs fit into a common destiny?

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by iabacu on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:08AM (#24109384)

It’s not a that discriminative in terms of reproductive rights if you consider the one child policy that applied for a long time to a lot of people (mostly of Han ethnicity).

While the policy doesn’t exist anymore, it’s not about the policy, but who has the right to decide whether you’re allowed to have children.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by throwaway77643 on Monday August 10, 2020 @01:53AM (#24106005)

From what I’ve read, the Han are also affected by this if they violate the new 2 child policy.

Back when it was the 1 child policy, only the Han had to follow it. The Uighurs and other minorities did not.

Now, everyone has to follow the 2 child policy.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by ardy42 on Monday August 10, 2020 @02:48AM (#24106328)

>> Xi Jinping and the CCP’s official goal is for the Chinese people and everyone else to have a common destiny.

>> Interpret these how you wish, because they are interpreting these how they wish.

> How does force sterilizing of Uighurs fit into a common destiny?

I believe the "common destiny" the GP was referring to is living under the control of the CCP.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by baryphonic on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:58AM (#24108755)

Or everyone non-Han being enslaved by the CCP or exterminated by it.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by tedhuang on Monday August 10, 2020 @02:31AM (#24106225)

I am sure you never been to XinJiang

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by dqpb on Monday August 10, 2020 @03:04AM (#24106412)

What would I see if I was there?

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by tedhuang on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:49AM (#24108246)

if you can afford a ticket go see it yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKvulTU8oU&bpctr=1597061919

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by abc-xyz on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:14AM (#24107146)

The most dystopian place in the world (VICE reporters undercover: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ).

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by rorykoehler on Monday August 10, 2020 @01:23AM (#24105843)

Chinese citizens should be very vocal against the CCP if they are brave enough. Telling people to be quiet because they are being silenced is a bit backward.

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Re:Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national ... by baryphonic on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:06AM (#24108822)

I want to be clear: I'd love to hear as many Chinese voices as possible criticizing this evil menace. But I also think prudence makes sense. I fully support: Chinese citizens criticizing the regime in private to non-Chinese; Chinese citizens telling the truth about the regime anonymously; or Chinese citizens speaking out but taking serious precautions for their personal and their families' health and safety. I also strongly support anyone who has the courage to visibly and publicly take a stand in a way where they are silenced by the regime, but only insofar as the stunt is recognizable publicly and the person does this with full awareness of the risks.

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