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Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by gumby on Sunday August 09, 2020 @03:57PM (#24102366)
Compare to DESERTEC, a plan to send power from North African solar farms under the Mediterranean to Europe with huge DC cables. They’ve been at it a while and I haven’t seen any signed of progress in a decade.

It’s possible AU+SG May have more organizational success. Only two players, both OECD countries. But the technical hurdles remain immense.

https://www.desertec.org/

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by threatripper on Sunday August 09, 2020 @04:43PM (#24102718)
Problem is the fragile political situation in North Africa and the reluctance of the European militaries to ensure stability with force.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by devdas on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:42AM (#24107664)
Helping kill Gaddafi does nothing to help the situation.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by monadic2 on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:28AM (#24108067)
From my perspective European militaries are the cause of regional instability, not a solution.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by baybal2 on Sunday August 09, 2020 @06:44PM (#24103592)
Have you been watching French moves in Africa as of late?
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by samvher on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:13AM (#24107506)
Would you mind elaborating on what you’re referring to? I’m quite curious.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by lhpz on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:39AM (#24109087)
In 2013, the President of Mali asked France for help in stopping an attack on the capital Bamako by Islamic groups from the North of the country, whose goal was to establish a second Islamic state in the Sahel region, modeled after the Islamic State of Iraq which was developing at that same time. Four fighter jets were sent from France to stop the attackers as they were driving down south in pickups and were just a few hours away from taking the capital Bamako.

7 years later, the French forces are still on the ground, trying to help in stabilizing not only Mali, but also the whole Sahel region. With little stabilization success so far, but a second Islamic state in this area was avoided thanks to this intervention.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barkhane

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by pjc50 on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:21AM (#24107552)
Beau Geste? Battle of Algiers? No I've no idea either.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by markdown on Sunday August 09, 2020 @07:09PM (#24103729)
> the reluctance of the European militaries to ensure stability with force.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by waheoo on Sunday August 09, 2020 @09:22PM (#24104548)
Because it is a bad thing for the project. You're reading into this too much.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by pjc50 on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:08AM (#24107488)
Re-occupying North Africa for its natural resources also guarantees the doom of the project in short order, as well as a huge cost of money, lives, CO2, and everything else.

"Ensuring stability with force" does not work. Stability can only be ensured with prosperity.

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by GlennS on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:43AM (#24108192)
This seems incorrect, and maybe wishful thinking?. There have been many brutal societies (and colonies, empires and so on) that lasted for centuries.

Certainly a lot of military "interventions" in the past couple of decades have been pretty disastrous though.

I propose a "you break it you buy it" model. Until such time as Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have peace and good governance, no more military adventures to spread liberal democracy.

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by waheoo on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:07PM (#24115212)
Ensuring stability with force certainly works at the small scale the project needs.

Nobody is talking about re-occupying North Africa.

Again, you're reading too much into this. Maybe go back to Portland with that rhetoric?

Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by monadic2 on Monday August 10, 2020 @10:57PM (#24116740)
Got any sources? You sound like you're poorly educated on the topic.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by pizza234 on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:42AM (#24107321)
Well, it can't say it's bad, but it may not be realistic. Don't forget the famous war that was supposed to "ensure stability with force", and that's been lasting for almost 20 year. Things are certainly more complicated there, but it's fair to be skeptical that force can bring stability.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by EdwardDiego on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:43AM (#24108191)
Reminds me of the Vietnam era "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity"
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by ulfw on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:38AM (#24108147)
The fact they put Roland Berger, a consultant, on the front page rather than people who would actually run or work on the project says all there is to say about this coming to fruition.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by patrickk on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:51AM (#24108685)
The proposed European supergrid is also very interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_super_grid
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @12:07PM (#24121924)
When I look at [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouarzazate_Solar_Power_Station I have the feeling at least some of the former interested parties don't care anymore, and are doing it for themselves.
Re:Australia fast-tracks plan to send solar power to Singapore by mtts on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:05AM (#24108355)
I heard part of the problem is that solar collectors don’t work when they get dusty and that there’s a lot of dust in the desert.

(That’s alongside other obvious issues such as the political instability others have alluded to).