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Re:Coups, lies, dirty tricks: Stewart Copeland on his CIA ag... by buran77 on Sunday August 09, 2020 @09:00AM (#24099323)
> blaming of such a huge action on a few Westerners

You're looking at this as if it was a literal tug-of-war game where "a few" can't beat the many due to the laws of physics. Yet the reality we live in thoroughly contradicts you at every step. If the "few" can apply pressure at precise points and in precise ways then a lot can be achieved.

Look no further than lobbying where "a few" people have far more power than a country's worth of citizens. For example they may de-prioritize education because a population with close to total zero understanding of the world is far easier to steer whichever way the "few" want.

> This kind of emotionally charged approach

You're free to make it as emotional as you want. I gave it as an objective example that destroyed the foundation of your line of argumentation. So call it what you may but you still haven't come up with anything that can stand up to even cursory scrutiny. Personal opinions and interpretations are not that.

Re:Coups, lies, dirty tricks: Stewart Copeland on his CIA ag... by totalZero on Monday August 10, 2020 @09:08AM (#24108832)
> You're looking at this as if it was a literal tug-of-war game

The '53 coup was orchestrated by a small group. The '79 revolution was the result of a groundswell of opposition to the Shah.

> You're free to make it as emotional as you want. I gave it as an objective example that destroyed the foundation of your line of argumentation. So call it what you may but you still haven't come up with anything that can stand up to even cursory scrutiny. Personal opinions and interpretations are not that.

This is nonsense. You threw forward some hypothetical sob story that is neither accurate (talk to some Iranians) nor relevant (the post-hoc sadness or non-sadness of an event doesn't change its antecedents).