Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You More Than TikTok

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by dredmorbius on Saturday August 08, 2020 @11:42AM (#24092476)

Particularly where lack of standing, mooting by the government dropping its case, or most problematical of all, state secrets privilege, born of U.S. v. Reynolds.

See: "State Secrets Privilege"

Essentially, by invoking the state secrets privilege in this way, the government argues that even if all of the allegations of serious law-breaking and Constitutional violations are true, surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans is exempt from judicial review.

In response to the government’s assertion, and as it has since the first wiretapping cases started in 2006, EFF argues that in creating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Congress preempted the state secrets privilege, creating a separate but still very secure way for the case to be decided. The FISA law not only prevents the immediate dismissal of the case, it affirmatively instructs courts to determine whether electronic surveillance is legal....

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/state-secrets-privilege

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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by lern_too_spel on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:05PM (#24092673)

Snowden since then released a cache of documents showing that the NSA wasn't doing what the EFF suspected. Continuing to claim otherwise is conspiracy theory raving.

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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by dredmorbius on Saturday August 08, 2020 @02:37PM (#24093998)

Care to link?

This or any of your numerous other conspicuously unsourced claims?

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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by lern_too_spel on Sunday August 09, 2020 @05:34PM (#24103114)

Are any of your claims sourced? You linked to documents that either had nothing to do with your claims or directly refuted them. I, on the other hand, posted a CNET article that directly supported my PRISM claim.

I'll let you look this one up yourself. It might take you some time to find it, but by doing it yourself, you'll learn some things that will fix a few other conspiracy theories you might have that you haven't brought up yet. Look for "minimization" and "Section 702." Both will be good starting points.

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