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Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by hombre_fatal on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:40PM (#24088753)
I drink in general, yet at work gatherings with alcohol I stick to sparkling water.

I'm approaching my mid-30s and never had anyone "encourage" me to put the water down and suck on a beer. Nor do I think wheeling a keg into the office is the same as a manager encouraging you to drink.

You definitely stand out when you're in a drinking context and your hands are in your pockets. There's something that can feel distrustful about that in some scenarios. I'd encourage non-drinkers to at least learn to play along and have some beverage in their hand.

A lot of our creep-detector software seems to kick in when someone isn't playing along with social ritual, and complaining that you have to play along doesn't really serve you. They're just basic social skills.

Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by sukilot on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:16AM (#24088905)
To recap: there's nothing creepy about bullying people into drinking -- pretending to drink if they must! -- to prove their loyalty to the group, and despite the fact that should be common knowledge for everyone, you've never seen it happen?
Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by atq2119 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:09AM (#24091009)
This discussion is absurd even on a linguistic level.

If you have a glass of water in your hand, you are drinking. Maybe you're not drinking alcohol, but calling it "pretending to drink" is just silly.

Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by DonHopkins on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:57AM (#24090631)
If they always bully you into pretending to drink, remember to bring some fake vomit to seal the deal.
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Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by jayjader on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:45AM (#24090351)
Dude, a "beverage" can just mean a glass of water.

We're talking about parts of human psycology like not having the same posture as the rest of the group. Of course it's prejudice, but it's also real and difficult to be aware of when it's happening to you.

Also, nobody is showering their drink on you if you don't participate, so blowing your blunt smoke in their face is a much bigger asshole move for me.

Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by Mediterraneo10 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:50AM (#24090369)
> Alcohol makes people violent and out of control, more so than any other drug.

No, PCP is known to make users violent beyond what alcohol would do. And increased alcohol consumption correlates with less ability to act violently, because at some point the drinker is going to be unable to move, while PCP does not degrade one's motor skills.

Re:Alcohol as a social technology to check the trustworthine... by DonHopkins on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:58AM (#24090633)
PCP is the one drug that all the scare stories the government tells you about it are true.