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Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by ajhurliman on Friday August 07, 2020 @07:48PM (#24087651)
Here's a summary that combines the two sections:

She has a manager who (apparently) has a low tolerance for risk. He probably got to where he is by spinning situations so that it's not his fault. He was upset that she contacted the FBI about a situation and took on more risk than he was comfortable with.

She sees herself as someone who enjoys the trappings of a job well done and doesn't mind her slow progress of ladder-climbing because she's brave and takes risks that her superiors won't reward with promotions.

I liked and identified with the writing in the second half, and it sounds like she had a good scenario to act as a substrate for her thoughts, but I don't think she did a good job merging the two.

Like you said, they feel like two distinct pieces which got bolted together. I found myself with the scroll bar near the bottom and wondered how she was going to tie back in to the original story, and was disappointed to see that she never did.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by pdonis on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:12PM (#24088101)
> She has a manager who (apparently) has a low tolerance for risk. He probably got to where he is by spinning situations so that it's not his fault. He was upset that she contacted the FBI about a situation and took on more risk than he was comfortable with.

I get that this appears to be the conclusion the author wants you to draw. But what's missing, to me, is that she has provided no evidence whatever to support it. The only evidence we have about her boss is his reaction--and I can see a boss with a high tolerance for risk saying exactly what she describes her boss as saying, as a kind of whimsical recognition that the very thing that makes her a valuable employee is that she will take on these things that none of his other employees will take on. So on the only evidence she gives us about her boss, it could go either way.

What I expected to see (and apparently you did too), at some point later in the article, was some kind of follow-up to that specific story she told--some way in which either her boss did or didn't support her in some subsequent development related to what she had already told. And there wasn't one.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by shadowgovt on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:01PM (#24088349)
The missing piece of the puzzle is that we never meet the idiot manager in the story. She's in an organizational situation where her team has oversight over a team in the government implementing on a project but does not have the ability to directly set policy, constrain goals, or otherwise apply direct managerial leverage. The idiot in the story is the guy charging full speed ahead with a deployment of a product that is already known compromised. Matt Cutts, meanwhile, is the head of her department, and also has no managerial oversight over the team she just called federal law enforcement on.

Because she is incentivized to make the product as good as possible, not hit deadlines and satisfy arbitrary legislative targets divorced from software engineering reality, it never occurred to her how much s* she was going to cause for the people in the direct chain of management by getting the FBI involved. It's probably the right thing to do... Ultimately, the software was compromised by domestic terrorists and the threat was real. But she's basically just wrecked any goodwill she had working with this department for the foreseeable future (especially if it turns out that somebody in the management chain that she has oversight over has actually managed to break the law due to negligence ;) ).

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by pdonis on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:51PM (#24088545)
> The idiot in the story is the guy charging full speed ahead with a deployment of a product that is already known compromised.

Ah. That makes sense.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by phkahler on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:04PM (#24088590)
...the team she just called federal law enforcement on.

That's interesting, I didn't see it as reporting the other team to law enforcement. The law breaking was anticipated to be done by people outside government. The whole raise your right hand thing seemed weird (perhaps a formality) unless you think she was implicating specific people. In that case it makes more sense.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by shadowgovt on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:00AM (#24089131)
It's not precisely that she called law enforcement on them, poor choice of words on my part. It's more that, if you will, she turned the "eye of Sauron" on the project. If the team she had oversight on thought they were going to meet deadlines with open security holes, having the FBI actively looking at what they're doing pretty much torpedoes that hope.
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by rrobukef on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:34AM (#24090801)
It seems like the team wanted it torpedoed as well. Every higher up was aware but tied in bureaucracy. The team basically washed their hands and tried to deliver in order to pass the buck. Messing with things codified in federal law seems like a very poor career choice.
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Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by mcrad on Saturday August 08, 2020 @09:57AM (#24091652)
Your obsession with the token Racists in this essay is very funny. AND Sexism? There's an interesting conversation about "Humanity" happening, isn't there?
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by Aeolun on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:59AM (#24090635)
We have literal 17 year olds hacking the twitter account of Obama and a ton of other high profile people.

How can you possibly believe that a bunch of white supremacists are not a threat? You need only one marginally competent one to wreck your entire platform.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by throwaway33222 on Sunday August 09, 2020 @09:53AM (#24099649)
>You need only one marginally competent one to wreck your entire platform.

Yes exactly. Ultimately security is deeply involved with threat modeling. It is likely that the author's boss did not prioritize her pet security issues because they were a low risk in the threat model.

>How can you possibly believe that a bunch of white supremacists are not a threat?

Domain expertise. Frankly I am somewhat surprised that people with what is apparent to be a television soap opera level of understanding of american dissident activity make public posts on the topic with the confidence they do on here. Not you, of course, but others.

Unfortunately, the most believable interpretation of this story is very boring office politics: Our author, having failed to make a case to her boss, drummed up some internet post in an attempt to get her way. We've all known people like this... they have varying amounts of self-awareness. It is characteristic of such actors to manufacture exactly the sort of attack they imagine to be the most relevant. This is likely to be such a case. What gives her away is that this is some fantastical story that makes sense only in pop culture: if there is even one WS cyber attack on an american federal platform for every 10,000 chinese attacks I will eat my hat and livestream it. These are simply not people with competence in the field of cyber security.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by heavenlyblue on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:47AM (#24091237)
I would also say that assuming that white suprematists are inherently stupid is wrong. It takes a certain amount of rough intelligence to go against the modern norms (I.e. to justify your beliefs to others, to read just the right books) to keep these beliefs.

Thinking they are “just” idiots is an entirely wrong take if you are trying to play against them.

It’s like saying that Putin is an idiot because he’s against gay rights in Russia. But if he was really stupid he would probably be dead by now.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by fwsgonzo on Saturday August 08, 2020 @06:02AM (#24090417)
What on earth is this? Are you serious?
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by keenmaster on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:18PM (#24088125)
She’s probably holding back for various reasons, despite the sensational title. You have to read between the lines.
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by irontinkerer on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:52PM (#24088308)
Holding back? She names her employer and her boss yet doesn’t give anything concrete, but feels okay to call him an “idiot” in the title?
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by keenmaster on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:03PM (#24088356)
She never actually outright called her boss an idiot. The most literal interpretation of the title is "if you feel this way about your boss, then here is why you may feel that way." I certainly hope that was her intended meaning, because the counterfactual is very risque. I did think the title was unnecessary though, and the naming.
Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by zaroth on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:10PM (#24088380)
To bait a story with such a spectacular plot, the author could have us reading tenuous managerial pontification for pages on end, just to get the juicy revelation at the end.

That the narrative payoff never comes is such an infuriating let down, you actually end up confused over what the heck you just read!

I think the fact that the story comes with bespoke cover art just serves to raise expectations even further.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by sfifs on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:58AM (#24090406)
> She has a manager who (apparently) has a low tolerance for risk. He probably got to where he is by spinning situations so that it's not his fault.

We're talking about Matt Cutts here who took what was likely a massive pay cut to work for the government after a long career at Google. Neither does this inference seem credible, nor does the characterization of him as "idiot manager" in the article

https://www.google.com/amp/s/searchengineland.com/matt-cutts...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Cutts

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by archgoon on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:57PM (#24088329)
> She has a manager who (apparently) has a low tolerance for risk. He probably got to where he is by spinning situations so that it's not his fault. He was upset that she contacted the FBI about a situation and took on more risk than he was comfortable with.

I seriously doubt that it was the intent of the author to accuse Matt Cutts as someone who spun blame onto others and avoided responsibility.

Re:Why is this idiot running my engineering org? by shadowgovt on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:07PM (#24088370)
Yeah, it's not clear unless one understands what USDS does.

USDS is the federal government's first attempt to recognize the fact that the United States has no cross-department best practices for software engineering at the federal level. It's an organization tasked with running roughshod over various software engineering projects, but in its first iteration, it served an advisory role, and had no "teeth." So it ran into a lot of challenges where it would try to provide best practices for various government orgs, and the orgs, convinced that they knew best because they've been doing this for decades (wrong) already, could just ignore them.

I believe they have some teeth now, and it may perhaps be because a couple of interactions like this occurred. I know Mr. Cutts himself built up a bit of a reputation as a skullcracker, because it turns out he was quite good at figuring out how to apply bureaucratic leverage (mostly by figuring out how individual team members were incentivized and then aligning the relevant incentives to make them care about getting the job done the right way).