Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You More Than TikTok

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by notatoad on Friday August 07, 2020 @06:50PM (#24087218)

>When the US Government can unilaterally demand security cooperation from Google in any way, shape, or form like the Chinese government can, then sure.

is this not exactly what a national security letter (NSL) is? the government can demand anything of a tech company, including that the company not tell anybody about it, as long as they claim it's for reasons of national security.

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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by MattGaiser on Friday August 07, 2020 @06:56PM (#24087261)

1. The request cannot include content. So your messages need a warrant.

2. The company can challenge it in court and have it reviewed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by manquer on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:03PM (#24087753)

In theory they can challenge in FISA court yes, FISA court has denied less than 0.1% of the warrant requests in 30+ year history. It is rubber stamp court. I am sure such rubber stamp processes exist in China as well.

The fact you cannot even mention that you received a NSL forget the scope and nature of actual request, and entire secretive nature of the court proceedings and no plans to every unseal this data, canary declaration being the only way to even tell your customers. If I said this happened anywhere else you will say that country is repressive.

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