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Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by echelon on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:40PM (#24085126)
> Well, ultimately, it is. If a "store within a store" (or a second independent store) gets too much traction, it will hold the platform back.

A better solution would be for the DOJ to force Apple to allow other app stores and open installs.

> If such a store/third entity becomes powerful Apple can't direct the future and make the changes it wants (the jump to Apple Sillicon is just a recent example, deprecating Carbon, notarization, etc) but has to placate to that too, or risk the ire of tons of dependent users.

Where is that a problem in reality? They've changed their desktop architecture, and that's a completely open platform.

> Apple has seen that play out when it gave too much power to Adobe, MS and others, and has been correcting for that ever since Jobs came back...

Apple built something that is now widely used for conducting business, finance, communication, etc. They no longer deserve to have a singular stranglehold on it. The world depends on iPhone, and it needs to be opened up.

Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by coldtea on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:20PM (#24087843)
>A better solution would be for the DOJ to force Apple to allow other app stores and open installs.

Force them to make a different product that the one users buy on their own volition, despite a more open alternative with double the adoption, and which took Apple from a bankrupt company in 1997 to the largest company on Earth in 2020?

Did it ever occured to anyone that some of the success iOS has is precisely because it does restrict things a certain way (which enable other things, from security to quicker platform tech changes)?

And that as users we like it because of those things, not despite them?

Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by ryandrake on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:49PM (#24085211)
As a former iOS developer and a user, I'm torn. AppStore's rules are frustrating and unevenly applied, and it sucks that AppStore is the only way to distribute apps. On the other hand, as a user I don't want 20 goddamn app stores on my device. Want Portal 2? Go download Steam! Want Fortnight? Go download Epic store! Minecraft? Windows store! It's horrible.
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by ubercow13 on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:57PM (#24085284)
Sure but I prefer that to the alternative of ‘everything is only available on the Windows store’, where Steam doesn’t exist
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by mey on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:11PM (#24085438)
Most games except the ones you listed are available across multiple stores, and websites like humble bundle. Typically the only limitation is that most stores do not allow publishers to advertise that an item is available on another store. For example, Halo can be picked up on Steam or Windows Store these days. Microsoft realised that people preferred certain stores over others. So much so that Epic is still giving away multiple games every week trying to build up it's user base.
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by blackearl on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:51PM (#24085819)
EA tried to play hardball with their Origin store and only recently started selling on Steam again.
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by the_other on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:54PM (#24086353)
What happens to my games when the store I bought them from goes bust?
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by mey on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:47PM (#24088275)
Depends on the store. GoG and Humble Bundle offer DMR free downloads typically so you can store and keep your own software. Others? Same thing as any other walled garden.
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by freeone3000 on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:10PM (#24085430)
Once a program is purchased from a store, it doesn't need to be launched from that store. GOG Galaxy 2 accumulates the storefronts into one launcher, where you can search, install, and launch any game that you've purchased on any of the platforms. This wouldn't even be possible on an iOS device. I'm in favor of openness and interconnectivity over uniformity.
Re:Apple says game streaming services violate App Store poli... by vezycash on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:10PM (#24085428)
> as a user I don't want 20 goddamn app stores on my device

Nobody would force anyone to install alternate stores.