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Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by sneak on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:06PM (#24077620)
> The very first amendment of the U.S.'s constitution outlies that the government cannot censor the expression of speech.

Turns out, they don't need to. Due to the fact that most people do not exercise any real control over the devices they use to read most expression, all they have to do is be able to regulate trade between app publishers and the {App,Play} Store.

This is how the US government is presently engaging in censorship of apps published by ByteDance (and soon Tencent). They can prohibit Apple/Google from transacting with the publisher, and because Apple/Google control the phones of the end users, the end users are effectively prohibited from reading the content published by that publisher.

It's an end run around the constitution.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by three_seagrass on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:12PM (#24077661)
First, only Apple devices have the issue of limited store access, which is a tangential antitrust problem unto itself.

Second, despite the claims of the president, the white house does not have the power to block TikTok or Bytedance from the public. The president can only block armed forces from installing apps on their owned devices.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by realusername on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:18PM (#24077710)
> First, only Apple devices have the issue of limited store access, which is a tangential antitrust problem unto itself.

Android is also problematic on that aspect, even Epic Games gave up on distributing Fortnite outside the Play Store.

If the most well known game in the world can't make it outside the Play Store, who could?

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by three_seagrass on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:21PM (#24077736)
The Epic Games store and Fortnite is precisely the counterexample to anyone saying there's a single store on Android devices.

Whatever sweetheart deal Epic worked out with Google in the end doesn't discredit that they successfully sold hundreds of thousands of copies outside of the the Google Play store.

This argument also intentionally ignores the existence of the Amazon app store on Android.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by realusername on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:24AM (#24078946)
> Whatever sweetheart deal Epic worked out with Google in the end doesn't discredit that they successfully sold hundreds of thousands of copies outside of the the Google Play store.

They specifically state that they failed due to the constraints and had to back to the store.

> This argument also intentionally ignores the existence of the Amazon app store on Android.

Yeah sure, there's a few other minor stores but they are nowhere near the size of the Play Store.

Additionally we could compare to other markets, if you compare the number of companies which can host your website and the number of companies which can host your app, the numbers are going from hundreds of thousands to less than 10 for apps even by counting almost irrelevant stores.