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Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by RandomBacon on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:41PM (#24074653)
I doubt businesses like it when others can see their financial transfers.

In other news: An unknown amount of Monero was transfered from an unknown wallet to an unknown wallet.

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by stevewodil on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:30PM (#24074542)
>I'm not sure why we keep doing this.

>This is not a Xapo wallet anymore, this is a BitGo custodial wallet for Bitstamp's cold storage that was migrated October 2019 and you can trace the coins from there.

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by jtsiskin on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:18PM (#24075014)
A billion dollars controlled by a single private key. Makes me nervous to even think about. I wonder how it’s sharded/backed up/secured.

It’s worth it for an attacker to spend a million dollars for a 0.1% chance of stealing access.

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by dkdk8283 on Thursday August 06, 2020 @06:58PM (#24076306)
A company I know of uses modified laptops across multiple locations and each one has a shard of the key.

Chipsets are removed. Disabling all USB / bluetooth / ethernet / sound / etc. I dont recall the exact details but apparently there is a market for devices like this.

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by webgoat on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:54PM (#24077251)
What's the point in using a decentralized exchange medium if you're ultimately storing your money in a centralized exchange and giving them nearly the same level of power over your money as a bank?
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by Tycho on Thursday August 06, 2020 @06:53PM (#24076273)
Is it possible to securely transfer bitcoin offline?

Like if someone hands you a thumb drive and says “this contains a key for a $1m wallet”, you don’t know if they kept a copy of the key. But is there some mechanism whereby it could be guaranteed that you have the only copy?

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by baobabKoodaa on Thursday August 06, 2020 @07:20PM (#24076449)
No, if the transfer is offline, there can be no guarantees that the same person didn't try to double spend by transferring the same funds to someone else (unless you involve a trusted third party).
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by olliej on Thursday August 06, 2020 @08:36PM (#24076846)
I assume the question is “can you do all the transaction signing offline” before actually posting it.

E.g.

1. Pull current BTC hash/tree/whatever-is-needed-in-a-transaction copy onto usb stick

2. Transfer that data to machine with account key via a usb stick or some other connection that has no external communication

3. Use that information to generate the transaction

4. Copy the transaction to the connected machine - a photo of the transaction text on screen even :)

5. Push the transaction out

6. Destroy the intermediate storage devices

Would that work?

Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by baobabKoodaa on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:42AM (#24083080)
No, that's not what the question was. The parent poster specifically said "you don’t know if they kept a copy of the key. But is there some mechanism whereby it could be guaranteed that you have the only copy?" In your example the account key on the usb stick is not guaranteed to be the only copy, and thus, there is risk of the sender double spending that money.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by coreblocks on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:05AM (#24082617)
That’s basically what a hardware wallet like ledger or trezor is.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by lozf on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:51PM (#24085822)
Unless the seed was used elsewhere / in another similar device.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by biolurker1 on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:14PM (#24074404)
Probably exchange to exchange cold wallets etc
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by olliej on Thursday August 06, 2020 @08:37PM (#24076848)
Yeah how much do the big exchanges manage?
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by ramblerman on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:43AM (#24079370)
Is the USD valuation really correct though? I doubt anyone could sell that amount, and not affect the exchange rate drastically.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by nikolay on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:39PM (#24077164)
Time to cash in from the recent pump & dump?
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by mensetmanusman on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:08PM (#24085953)
Trying to liquify that into dollars all at once would show the world how valuable BTC really is.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by doonesbury on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:37PM (#24088483)
Ok but what'd they do with rest of it?
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by dr_dshiv on Thursday August 06, 2020 @02:47PM (#24074135)
Putin?
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by nickthemagicman on Friday August 07, 2020 @12:06AM (#24078150)
It's deff some oligarch or major business entity.
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by valuearb on Friday August 07, 2020 @12:21AM (#24078247)
Satoshi Nakamoto!
Re:92,857 BTC (1,092,603,630 USD) transferred from unknown w... by freemint on Friday August 07, 2020 @05:19AM (#24079977)
Definitiv not. We know what coins are Sakamotos and if they moved the news would be bigger.