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Re:Coups, lies, dirty tricks: Stewart Copeland on his CIA ag... by monoideism on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:41AM (#24071936)
First, I never claimed there was a parallel between 53 and 79. I agree the two were very different.

But regarding your other claim: if some random group had seized power during the Green movement and its massive protests, that would have been the decision of the Iranian people?

Don't get me wrong, I supported the Green movement, but I would never claim - if some random coup had happened during that time - that it was a democratic process.

That won't happen until free and fair elections.

Re:Coups, lies, dirty tricks: Stewart Copeland on his CIA ag... by totalZero on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:28AM (#24089295)
> First, I never claimed there was a parallel between 53 and 79. I agree the two were very different.

The historians referenced in the article did:

> Only later does Stewart confront the geopolitical implications and talk to Middle Eastern historians who blame his father for what later unfolded in Iran: no coup against prime minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953, no tyrannical Shah, no Islamic revolution in 1979. Stewart hotly disagrees.

The removal of Mosaddegh was a four-day affair where a bunch of politicians were paid off. The removal of Mohammad Reza Shah was a two-year affair involving millions of Iranian protesters and thousands of casualties. This stark contrast is the basis for all of my comments in this thread.