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Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by pjmlp on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:41AM (#24069176)
MAUI is Xamarin rebranded.

Even with its half broken implementations, .NET and Java are still the best options in tooling and managed runtime capabilities.

Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by tasogare on Thursday August 06, 2020 @05:29AM (#24069400)
And it will be crap. What I want, and I'm sure a lot of other devs interested in making C# GUI multi-platform apps, is an UI framework à la Flutter that display the same thing everywhere. In the days of Electron apps not having a native look and feel is not a really problem anymore.

The saddest thing is that Microsoft actually offered that years before: Silverlight Out-of-Browser applications, that where running the same on Windows and Mac OS.

Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by rubber_duck on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:20PM (#24072407)
Silverlight was good for it's time but nowadays I would rather code in whatever popular JS/HTML framework - the live reload beats any C# flow hands down in iteration time and the fact that I can just reverse proxy my local dev env while working on something to a designer speeds up design tweaks a bunch.
Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by pjmlp on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:56PM (#24072852)
Or just use OpenSilver, thanks WebAssembly.

https://opensilver.net/

Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by rubber_duck on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:53AM (#24079825)
That sounds like it would make the development iteration even more terrible than it was - WASM builds were slooow last time I tried it - with webpack in HMR mode or flutter you get instant feedback - this is probably the biggest productivity boost in UI development - I've yet to see anything from .NET offer similar performance, I suspect it would be challenging due to the static nature of IL.
Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by pjmlp on Thursday August 06, 2020 @06:45AM (#24069759)
Electron is just a phase like Active Desktop and XUL, its time is coming to pass in this fashion driven industry.

Flutter is Dart Rails, the last hope to save Dart.

Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by headmelted on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:14PM (#24074978)
What you’ve just described is absolutely the opposite of what I want.

Mobile apps have very different requirements than desktop apps, not least as the metaphors are wildly different.

macOS, Windows and X all have fairly similar window layouts and behaviours.

iOS and Android have sharply different layouts and behaviours. Yeah there’s a bit of overlap now, but even navigation is different.

Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by nbevans on Thursday August 06, 2020 @06:02AM (#24069574)
There are rumours of a Flutter back-end coming for Xamarin.Forms/MAUI. Or possibly a something lower level in Windows itself (which a MAUI back-end could tap into).
Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by jiggawatts on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:53AM (#24069228)
If it was just marketing name change, it would be available now. Their current timeline has the first production release in late 2021!
Re:.NET Team Survey: Native AOT by pjmlp on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:54AM (#24069236)
It cannot be available now, because Xamarin doesn't support all backends that MAUI should support, nor does it run properly on .NET 5 yet.