Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

Re:Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A by schoolornot on Monday August 03, 2020 @04:27PM (#24042960)

I don't get why Google creates problems for themselves by relying on unproven tech or working backwards. Case in point: adaptive battery. Androids have historically had poor battery efficiency (mah vs. screen on time) against iPhones. Rather than optimize the OS and the apps and provide a larger capacity battery, they size down the battery and introduce software-based battery management with AI. Common responses to complaints on /r/GooglePixel about piss poor battery life are that the user hasn't waiting long enough for the system to develop a proper AI/ML model.

Another example: RCS. A protocol that neither carriers nor users actually want. 7 years after iMessage took over the US, Google is still unable to provide a functional E2E encrypted multi-device messaging service with all the doo-dads that come with iMessage.

So many more textbook examples out there.

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Re:Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A by buttersbrian on Monday August 03, 2020 @04:57PM (#24043320)

Google got wedged between the desire to create a imessage competitor, and not alienating every carrier / OEM.

RCS works. I am glad it's here. It would have been far more helpful 3 years ago though.

The most boggling decision is what has happened with Hangouts.

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Re:Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A by rurp on Monday August 03, 2020 @07:39PM (#24044806)

> Common responses to complaints on /r/GooglePixel about piss poor battery life are that the user hasn't waiting long enough for the system to develop a proper AI/ML model.

Oof, this sounds like the sort of thing that could go really frustratingly wrong in some cases. Do you happen to know if this results in apps being erroneously killed when switching to the background? My phone killing whatever is playing on Spotify or Podcast Addict when I switch to another app has been a recurring annoyance for me on Android. I've always been able to find a fix but, bewilderingly, the fix has been different on almost every phone I've had.

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Re:Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A by paulcole on Monday August 03, 2020 @07:57PM (#24044961)

The Americans waited for their phones to develop a proper AI/ML model. The Russians used a bigger battery!

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Re:Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A by MithrilTuxedo on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @02:27AM (#24047235)

Apple and Google aren't both just using jabber for messaging?

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