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Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by arethuza on Monday August 03, 2020 @09:35AM (#24037560)
I remember seeing fly fishing rights for sale on a stretch of the Spey - I think it was something like £40,000. Which I initially though was amazingly expensive.

Then I realised that just for one week a year!

Also, the statistics they provided suggest that each fish you caught would cost about the same as a cheap car.

Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by ethbro on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:23AM (#24038113)
It's a weird sport from a human perspective.

You get folks who just do it as a hobby (because it's not that expensive), die hard folks who live it (but aren't that wealthy), plus ultra-wealthy folks (who are generally jealous of the former!). I think it's the peace and tranquillity that attracts.

Add to that, that at least in the US, Trout Unlimited is without a doubt the most politically-connected pure sportsperson lobbying organization.

Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by teachrdan on Monday August 03, 2020 @01:50PM (#24040977)
"At either end of the social spectrum there lies a leisure class."

What you described is also true for skiing, scuba diving, mountain diving and any number of other outdoor pursuits.

Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by ethbro on Monday August 03, 2020 @02:13PM (#24041260)
Apparently in the US there are about: 7M fly fishers [1], 9M skiers + snowboarders [2], about 3.2M SCUBA divers [3], 14M "active camping households" (3 or more times in a year) [4], and 48M hikers [5]. To pull a few outdoor activities, because I was curious.

Fly fishing feels more like bird-watching to me though: in that it's relatively easy and cheap to do, but not a thing you would ever do accidentally.

[1] https://outdoorindustry.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2018-... [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/376710/active-skiers-and... [3] https://www.dema.org/store/download.aspx?id=7811B097-8882-47... [4] https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170315005391/en/Cam... [5] https://www.statista.com/statistics/191240/participants-in-h...

Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by throwaway0a5e on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:24AM (#24038117)
Hunting/fishing in Europe is traditionally something the landed gentry did and priced accordingly. It's all orders of magnitude cheaper in the US and Canada.
Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by epanchin on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:44AM (#24038341)
I’d suggest fishing in Scotland is expensive because of American money driving up prices.
Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by arethuza on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:54AM (#24038455)
Ownership of "sporting" estates in Scotland is pretty varied:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-47963208

NB Doesn't matter who owns it, we can still walk over it!

Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by macNchz on Monday August 03, 2020 @01:33PM (#24040759)
Are Americans buying land in Scotland specifically for fly fishing? Not that I don't love visiting Scotland, it just seems unnecessarily expensive and far when Montana offers vast areas of (to my knowledge) world-class fly fishing without an international flight.
Re:The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple by arethuza on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:33AM (#24038218)
It very much depends on the type of hunting or fishing though - coarse and sea fishing is a very popular activity. Mind you - you can go fishing in some very nice spots for relatively small amounts of money:

e.g.

http://www.glensherup-fishery.co.uk/