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Re:Patreon as a Platform Is in Trouble by dgellow on Monday August 03, 2020 @07:05AM (#24036271)
The post is missing context. That's what I can find:

- Owen Benjamin has been removed from Patreon late 2019

- His fans file suits against Patreon claiming they interfered in their economic relationship with a content creator

- Under Patreon terms of service at the time, such a complaint has to be settled via arbitration under California's laws

- On January 1 Patreon changed their terms to ban users from filing complaints when someone is removed from the platform

- Patreon initiated a counter-suit against 72 complainers

- That has been denied Friday, Patreon will have to pay up to $10k per arbitration case

- Under California laws the updated terms of service can cause other legal issues (?)

- Patreon is now exposed to other lawsuits regarding other personalities removed from their platform

Re:Patreon as a Platform Is in Trouble by sweisman on Monday August 03, 2020 @08:57AM (#24037135)
The ToS say you waive your right to a jury trial or participating in a class action. Both are wrong. By stating those conditions, Patreon is guilty of deceptive practices. Which is illegal. All Patreon users can file a demand for arbitration now, regardless of whether or not someone they backed was deplatformed.
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Re:Patreon as a Platform Is in Trouble by dang on Monday August 03, 2020 @02:34PM (#24041554)
> Are you a shill or just misinformed?

You broke the site guidelines badly with that. No personal attacks, please, and no drive-by insinuations of shillage.

Your comment would be just fine without that bit.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Patreon as a Platform Is in Trouble by dgellow on Monday August 03, 2020 @09:17AM (#24037372)
I wrote down what I got after reading a few articles on the topic, I never claimed to be well informed on the topic. You can correct me without being insulting.

Edit: regarding the counter-suit, is this article incorrect? https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/159637...

> [Patreon] also responded with a counter-suit against 72 of those, seeking injunction against them -- which was denied Friday, setting the site up for payouts of some $10,000 per arbitration case, which it will not be able to reclaim even if it wins

Edit 2: from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Benjamin

> Patreon would later file a counter-suit against 72 of the fans

Re:Patreon as a Platform Is in Trouble by sweisman on Monday August 03, 2020 @09:34AM (#24037553)
My apologies.

It's all factually incorrect. The only lawsuit filed was by Patreon, because it was upset that it had to abide by the terms and conditions of its contract of adhesion.

"The comedian instructed his fans to file suits against Patreon..."

"Suits" here refer to claims submitted to arbitration, specfically JAMS.