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Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by Grimm1 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:02PM (#24023883)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/14/china-us-cou...

Easily fact checked. China doubles the US on both Co2 and Methane emissions.

Edit: Got downvoted, but it's still true the above post is outright incorrect information.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday August 01, 2020 @11:55PM (#24026207)
Which means that they emit much less per person. Or should countries be compared with no refrerence to their population, in which case Saudi Arabia is doing great?

Additionally, USA has had decades of relative prosperity to clean up its emissions, but did nothing.

Meanwhile China has more electric busses than the rest of the world combined, more hifgh-speed raio than the rest of the world combined, lead the world in investment in renewables and nuclear and are on track to meet their Paris accord commitment, unlike US.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by Grimm1 on Sunday August 02, 2020 @09:48AM (#24028672)
Looking at it per population is kind of ridiculous when it's very obviously corporations and manufacturing responsible for most green house gasses. The average person barely makes a difference both in regards to pollution, resource consumption and plastics.
Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday August 02, 2020 @04:58PM (#24031689)
You have a point, but population is still the key metric. Corporatuons are, after all, made up of people. Whether those people produce emissions in their private life, or in their jobs.

Furthermore this is a production based accounting of CO2, if you instead do consumption-based accounting of CO2 then you will see a dramativally more savage picture.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by whoevercares on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:31PM (#24024063)
Does comparing the total always make sense? How about we take the average? Twice the amount means each Chinese person emit about 1/5 greenhouse of an American does. Man are created equal and Chinese people have the equal right to emit for their own prosperity

Reminds me of some downplay of China’s progress by looking at averages

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by toomuchtodo on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:34PM (#24024079)
Prosperity is not a right. Past emissions by some do not create future emissions allowances for others. We should all be held accountable for future emissions, as the climate cares little for equality concerns.

With that said, it’s entirely feasible to transition faster to not needing to emit carbon to raise or maintain quality of life. As I mention above, everyone should be accountable for that.

Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by ClumsyPilot on Saturday August 01, 2020 @11:57PM (#24026213)
Past emissions allowed countries to build wealth, and if wealthy countriss are failing to clean uo their act, why do you wxpect poorer countries like India or Vietbam to make a sacrafice?
Re:TikTok’s Chinese owner offers to forego stake to clinch U... by whoevercares on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:42PM (#24024139)
> prosperity is not right

If we directly translate this to Chinese, the statement doesn’t make any sense. Is “pursuing prosperity” a right?

Looks like between the two cultures there might be quite a diverge Of the definition of “right”

Otherwise though I agree with what you said and China probably has been making a good progress already. Believe it or not, low Carbon life style is promoted by the official media