Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by zokula on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:50AM
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Just know you can run a full Linux desktop experience on top of twenty-year-old spinning rust just fine. Micro$oft drooped the ball big time if one needs a ssd just to use a OS.
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Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by rocqua on Saturday August 01, 2020 @03:25AM
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they optimized for current hardware, sacrificing some performance on outdated hardware.
I'd rather windows uses my SSD to the fullest, than that it makes concessions to spinning disks.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by badsectoracula on Saturday August 01, 2020 @08:54AM
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How is Windows using SSD to its fullest? All it seems to be doing is taking advantage of the greater speed to perform more I/O that it didn't do before which negates any performance improvements the SSD brings.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by treve on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:09AM
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I'm not sure this is the right take, as I don't believe it's a matter of choosing to optimize for SSD vs. HDD's. Disks got faster, so the bar for baseline acceptable performance got higher.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by cable2600 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:56AM
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It needs a SSD drive to boot faster. Otherwise it takes a few minutes instead of seconds.
Windows 10 is for newer hardware anyway, it runs slow on older hardware.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by soulofmischief on Saturday August 01, 2020 @03:39AM
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You are completely missing their point. "For newer hardware" means slower. I remember how Windows 7 was so well-designed that it actually ran faster on my all of my old XP machines than XP did. It was a step up in performance, not a step down.
In 2018 Microsoft disbanded the Windows team and moved engineering efforts to its cloud and AI teams. Windows 10 is on life support by engineers who aren't intimately familiar with its codebase. Performance and usability will only degrade in this situation and the specifications of newer hardware don't excuse constant deterioration in performance.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by evilos on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:25AM
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It was a re-org, those engineering teams just moved to be under CAI or ED. The people are still there.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by soulofmischief on Saturday August 01, 2020 @06:16AM
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The people are still there, but there's no organizational impetus to always use them, plus they have other duties now. The team being disbanded means a loss in product tightness and quality control.
Re:Niklaus Wirth was right and that is a problem
by evilos on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:49PM
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That doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying you work on one of these teams?