Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by VWWHFSfQ on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:59PM
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Setting five police cars on fire is an act of domestic terrorism. That's not in any way a normal protest action.. That's what the prosecutor will argue.
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Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by dragonwriter on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:59PM
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> Setting five police cars on fire is an act of domestic terrorism
No, it's not.
> That's not in any way a normal protest action.
Well, yeah, that’s why it's prosecutable as a crime at all rather than protected first amendment speech.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by bobbylarrybobby on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:10PM
(#24017045)
The Boston Tea Party was an act of domestic terrorism. It's hard to determine whether an act is right or wrong without a good duration of hindsight.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by remarkEon on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:52PM
(#24017354)
The only reason that we look at the Boston Tea Party as a "good" thing that happened is because that side ended up winning a war. If the British had won that conflict it would be a footnote in history, noting that some hooligans destroyed some property.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by dragonwriter on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:57PM
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> The only reason that we look at the Boston Tea Party as a "good" thing that happened is because that side ended up winning a war.
No, it's because they ended up winning a war and became us. If it has been a group that went on to win war of national liberation against us, we probably wouldn't too kindly on it.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by remarkEon on Saturday August 01, 2020 @12:12AM
(#24017506)
Sure, but the point remains. We remember the Boston Tea Party as a good thing only because the victors of that war celebrate it.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by VWWHFSfQ on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:22PM
(#24017131)
Yep and maybe she'll be vindicated by future historians. But right now she's going to do 20 years.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by caetris1 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @12:59AM
(#24017790)
Doubtful.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by tomc1985 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:42AM
(#24017958)
Was it? Which part of it caused terror?
I mean, unless you're trying to be funny.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by frank2 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @02:01AM
(#24018040)
Sure, but no one would argue, I hope, that British society would have been improved if the British government had changed their laws so that the Tea Party would no longer be a crime.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by tomc1985 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:40AM
(#24017947)
Setting five police cars on fire is punk rock, not "domestic terrorism"
Setting cars on fire is not an act of spreading terror. It is an act of defiance
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by VWWHFSfQ on Saturday August 01, 2020 @01:56AM
(#24018021)
Your Honor, I firebombed those police cars because I'm PUNK ROCK!
do you see how you sound
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by tomc1985 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @02:18AM
(#24018123)
Again, you are misunderstanding the intention. 9/11 was an act of terrorism. Setting police cars on fire is vandalism, destruction of government property, maybe something for endangering police officers or something. All things condoned by your local friendly "anarchists".
What it isn't is terrorism.
Now go and listen to some Rage Against the Machine. Are they terrorists?
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by darkerside on Saturday August 01, 2020 @07:44AM
(#24019704)
Is lighting crosses on fire terrorism?
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by tomc1985 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @12:11PM
(#24021550)
Yes, because the whole point of that act is to terrify whoever lives on the property of the cross you're burning
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by darkerside on Sunday August 02, 2020 @05:14PM
(#24031813)
Why are people lighting cop cars on fire? Please don't say it's to make an intelligent and nuanced political statement.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by tomc1985 on Monday August 03, 2020 @12:39PM
(#24039958)
Because they want to destroy the government. Or their frustrated. Or mad. Or feeling mischevious.
None of those things are terrorism
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by skinnymuch on Saturday August 01, 2020 @03:38AM
(#24018506)
Calling lighting some cars on fire
terrorism sounds more frightening than anything else. I feel terrorized just by that.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by reitzensteinm on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:03PM
(#24017003)
I agree the crime is serious. But that she did it more than once doesn't make it proportionally more serious, and certainly should not make the sentence proportionally longer.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by bobmaxup on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:08PM
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Why doesn't it make it proportionally more serious?
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by riquito on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:25PM
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Ehm, seriously? 10 machine 40 years? 20 machine 80 years? There's no correlation with the concept of reforming that person after a while
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by amiga_500 on Saturday August 01, 2020 @12:25AM
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Usa system isn't reformative
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by entropea on Saturday August 01, 2020 @05:21AM
(#24019024)
I remember when terrorism was blowing up a building injuring almost 1000 people and killing countless more, or crashing airplanes into two buildings, killing 3000 and injuring countless more. Burning police cars that ended in not even an injury is a felony, but terrorism? No way.
I really wish people would stop lowering the bar for what's called terrorism. It's a very dangerous slope.
Re:Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack
by skinnymuch on Saturday August 01, 2020 @03:39AM
(#24018514)
It feels terrorizing to call lighting cars on fire terrorism.