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Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by esperent on Thursday July 30, 2020 @08:39PM (#24004455)
If Google search vanished overnight the world would turn to DDG within a day. Ok, that would probably crash their servers but I'm sure they and other search engines could scale up quickly.
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by plusCubed on Thursday July 30, 2020 @09:17PM (#24004658)
DuckDuckGo "most commonly" uses Bing for link search results, so it would mostly be redirecting queries to Microsoft: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by losvedir on Thursday July 30, 2020 @09:38PM (#24004785)
You're trivializing search. DDG only works because for the hard stuff it's grandfathered into an old Bing API. DDG is small and scrappy but it's built on the shoulders of a giant investing billions of dollars.
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by m463 on Friday July 31, 2020 @04:38AM (#24006854)
Nonetheless, they have customers because a need (for privacy) hasn't been met by others. They're also probably making microsoft money.

(I just wonder if microsoft has some sort of method of identifying or matching queries with actual people)

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by voidhorse on Thursday July 30, 2020 @08:52PM (#24004537)
Right, but the average person doesn't know about DDG--sure word would catch on, but the initial break would cause major friction for the vast majority of people.

Also, what happens to all that data in stowed away in other services? What happens, with Gmail if it's separated from the ads division? Do they suddenly start charging everyone to use it? Can they still run ads in Gmail? Would they have access to the infra serving those ads? If they flame out completely do we lose all our data? Will they give us a chance to export it? In what format?....

I just can't help but feel these sorts of breaks would be extremely difficult to get right.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by dredmorbius on Thursday July 30, 2020 @10:38PM (#24005144)
Swapping one monopoly for another really isn't the answer we want.

Speaking as one who worked with many who'd cheared Microsoft over IBM, who myself once saw Google, and later Apple, as just deserts for Microsoft's own monopoly abuses, and presently relies principally on DDG for Web search, and acknowledges that it too relies heavily, though not exclusively, on Microsoft's Bing.

Providing a useful tech capacity without winner-take-all monopolies should be the goal. And result.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by ThrowawayR2 on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:08AM (#24008707)
Search naturally tends towards monopoly; nobody wants to navigate to half a dozen separate sites to and parse through the results of each individually to find what they want.

All of them would be ad supported too, thanks to the fact that we in the software industry have conditioned users to expect things for "free" and advertisers would also want to put the bulk of their ad dollars toward the most effective search engine to get the most bang for the buck, again reinforcing the trend toward monopoly.

The only alternative that comes to mind is to make search a government run public utility but, as I'm sure a number of you are thinking rather loudly right now, that comes with its own set of problems.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by dredmorbius on Sunday August 02, 2020 @01:42PM (#24030110)
How does one address monopoly in similar circumstances?
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by Talanes on Thursday July 30, 2020 @08:53PM (#24004544)
I mean, honestly, it would just be a massive surge of users to Bing. I don't think any of the other competitors have the existing public name recognition.
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by nmfisher on Thursday July 30, 2020 @09:05PM (#24004605)
After switching to DDG (and recently, Bing after switching to Edge), I don't think Google's stock web-search is that much better. Not saying it's not better - it is - but if it disappeared from the face of the Earth, we'd all survive perfectly well on the alternatives.

Google Maps, though, is still unquestionably king. It is ludicrous how poor the alternatives are.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by sidibe on Thursday July 30, 2020 @09:01PM (#24004585)
In the west there's just two full search engines backing all the others anyways. None of the others have the infrastructure to index the internet