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Re:Air travel’s sudden collapse will reshape a trillion-doll... by titzer on Thursday July 30, 2020 @08:18PM (#24004338)
Four things I would like to mention that don't come up generally in discussions like these:

* Transportation infrastructure is a societal investment that produces benefits, it's not just about its cost. Investing in terrestrial transportation like trains, even if it is more expensive can give rise to proportionally greater societal benefits than air travel--think, a long-haul train has multiple stops, providing connection points for economic activity (smaller towns and cities connected through train stations) that planes clearly cannot. I actually think it's totally OK that trains require more investment because they may create larger network effects in the big picture.

* In some sense, all societal spending is make-work. If we're going to have make-work programs, we might as well spend it on the best long-term strategy, which in my honest opinion, having lived in Europe for a number of years, is cities being well-connected with cheap and fast rail, subways, and trams.

* Climate change is a real thing, and it's due mostly to CO2 emissions. It's gonna cost money to fix. We need to stop deploying the "but itz mah dollarzzzes" as an excuse not to act. We need to start thinking about paying back the absolutely massive debt we racked up from cheap and easy energy.

* Carbon offsets are a shell game that we can play in the short run, but ultimate we need to get to zero carbon footprint, which cannot be accomplished with offsets alone.

In summary, we better start paying up.

Re:Air travel’s sudden collapse will reshape a trillion-doll... by deepnotderp on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:09AM (#24005863)
High speed rail requires speeding up and slowing down too. And at 15m/mile it's significantly cheaper and better to build airports
Re:Air travel’s sudden collapse will reshape a trillion-doll... by randoramax on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:40AM (#24009001)
To go from LA to SF, flu. To go from Fresno to SF... Airport, really????
Re:Air travel’s sudden collapse will reshape a trillion-doll... by mac01021 on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:39AM (#24007705)
What does "15m/mile" mean?
Re:Air travel’s sudden collapse will reshape a trillion-doll... by smiley1437 on Friday July 31, 2020 @09:15AM (#24008258)
I suspect that means 15 million dollars per mile of rail. It should depend on where the rail is being installed though, because for paved asphalt roads, the price per mile can vary from 500k per mile per lane in a rural area, to north of 10m per mile per lane if you’re in a densely populated urban area