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Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by AnthonyMouse on Thursday July 30, 2020 @04:50PM (#24002703)
> You can't fight fire with fire and you can't fight scale with scale. The solution to these problems lies in eliminating the advantages of scale so that operating on a national or international level becomes an expensive liability, but competing on a local market is affordable and practical.

The problem was never the scale of the company. If YouTube was instead 100 different companies, there would still be a total of 49 years worth of video being uploaded every day which nobody would have the resources to review. Each company would have 1% of the video but also 1% of the revenue and the cost would be just as insurmountable.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by Avicebron on Thursday July 30, 2020 @05:00PM (#24002806)
I'm not sure why you brought up reviewing the videos. I couldn't find it as I glanced through this thread. If YT was 100 different companies competing against each other, then there would be positive effects as each on tried to out-innovate each other. They wouldn't just be 100 static mini YT's..and if some of them did that they wouldn't make it.

The scale of the company prevents meaningful competition, that's the issue, not necessarily that they can't affordably review the 49 years worth of video.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by AnthonyMouse on Thursday July 30, 2020 @06:02PM (#24003343)
This whole debate originated in some people noticing that there was a lot of wrongthink on the internet and then starting to yell at tech companies for not fixing it. But it turns out that problem is legitimately hard and the tech companies don't have a magic wand, so all their attempts have been ham-fisted disasters that trample all over everything like a frightened elephant.

That problem in particular isn't really one that competition would solve, because it's fundamentally a demand for censorship, and more competition would make censorship harder. Which is maybe a good thing anyway.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by simonh on Thursday July 30, 2020 @04:57PM (#24002781)
And creators would either upload their videos to 100 different services, or users would only be able to find 1% as much content.
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by AnthonyMouse on Thursday July 30, 2020 @05:51PM (#24003247)
That one is the easiest to solve -- separate discovery from hosting. You want to find a video, you go to a search engine. Any search engine you like. They all index all the videos everywhere. Some may even be dedicated to video or make recommendations etc.

The biggest problem there is that all the hosts want you to use their search and do what they can to get in the way of any third party turning them into a dumb pipe. But this is where some kind of P2P service could really have an advantage, because it doesn't have to care about that -- let it be a dumb pipe on purpose and it wins, because there are a thousand companies who would love to be in the video search/discovery business and not have to pay the cost of hosting the videos or worry about a centralized third party host locking them out next week.

Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by simonh on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:20AM (#24006196)
So now when I want to find videos on a topic, for many of the videos I’ll get a hundred hits for the same video uploaded to each service. But if the one I want was only uploaded to one device, it’ll be buried in a sea of hundreds of duplicates.
Re:Google’s problems are bigger than just the antitrust case by AnthonyMouse on Friday July 31, 2020 @05:52PM (#24014626)
If using a search engine is the ordinary method of discovery then there would be no need to upload the same video to multiple services. Meanwhile if people did that anyway, the search engine would want to figure out how to merge the duplicates.