Exactly. And it would be nice if people were just upfront about that instead of making it out to be a one-sided moral quandary.

I don't have a dog in the two countries' tech tussle and so I'm bemused at the expectation that I should take a side (it's also interesting that many people that I've spoken to don't recognise that using US tech is picking a side).

>> The US doesn't want Chinese tech because China won't allow US tech. That's really what it boils down to. And I can't really blame the US for it because China has locked out US tech companies for decades.

> Exactly. And it would be nice if people were just upfront about that instead of making it out to be a one-sided moral quandary.

Eh, not so exactly. You're talking as if "people" were hiding their true movies, but the reality we're not talking about a monolithic entity and different people have different motives. Some people think the way the GP describes, others think differently. What is true is that many of those different lines of thinking are starting to converge on the same kinds of responses.

Why do people keep saying China doesn't allow US tech? Apple, Microsoft, Google, Tesla all make a lot of monies in China.

Good point. Apple maps worked very well in China.