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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by creddit on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:26AM (#23985846)
> Probably most of the hardware in your phone was designed in Asia

It doesn’t appear to be true at all for Apple phones: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+11+Pro+Max+Teardown/1...

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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by gambiting on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:34AM (#23985924)
Apple devices are a tiny minority on the broader scale.

https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share...

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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by creddit on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @09:26AM (#23986369)
Is it even true for the Asian designed phones that the majority of the hardware is designed in Asia?

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S20+Ultra+Tea...

LOTS of Qualcomm ICs as well as Skyworks, Qorvo and Maxim which are all US companies.

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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by shard on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:52PM (#23993215)
If you consider display/battery/cameras/mechanicals, then by weight/volume/cost, most of the phone is designed in Asia.
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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by esperent on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:55AM (#23986088)
Most iPhones are made in China with parts manufactured by FoxConn. Maybe it's different for US iPhones?
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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by creddit on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @09:22AM (#23986335)
They are assembled in China. FoxConn doesn’t even do the majority of the manufacture of the parts. Their primary role is assembly.
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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by mc32 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:59AM (#23986127)
Made aka manufactured is not the same as designed. Which I don’t think they mean the ICs themselves but rather the whole phone package. Some are designed in S Korea, some in Japan, some China, some the US some in Scandinavia.
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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by creddit on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @09:22AM (#23986329)
Look at the link I posted. The vast majority of ICs are US designed.
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Re:Thoughts about the difference between European and Americ... by mc32 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @09:34AM (#23986456)
I agree with you. So when the poster I’m replying to says “made with parts” in China, I think they mean designing the pcb the bom. Which isn’t true as many of these are designed elsewhere but assembled in China (though some are designed there too) But it’s also not about assembly or design of the ICs themselves.
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