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Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by deepGem on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @06:49AM (#23985294)
Not happening. nVidia has a stranglehold on deep learning because of CUDA and Cudnn. I don't see any AMD alternatives to take over either of these. So I wouldn't bet too much on AMD taking over the deep learning chip market.
Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by CoolGuySteve on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:30AM (#23985889)
Who’s writing bare CUDA though? For most tasks a framework like Tensorflow or PyTorch is good enough.

If AMD could provide a backend for the most popular frameworks then they could skip over the CUDA patent issue completely.

The real problem is that it seems like AMD’s not investing substantially in software teams to make it happen.

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by deepGem on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:40AM (#23987885)
In the deep learning world every major framework works on top of Cudnn which works on top of CUDA Pytorch, Tensorflow you name it.

https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/issues/10657

That is the state of Pytorch support for AMD GPUs.

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by jacquesm on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @10:52AM (#23987293)
> Who’s writing bare CUDA though?

I do. Not everything you can do with a CUDA card is deep learning. In fact that's just one of many applications.

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by shaklee3 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @09:19AM (#23986308)
Lots of people do. We write cuda all the time.
Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by popinman322 on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @07:27AM (#23985505)
This. The software lead is just incredible; almost everything uses CUDA.

There has been some progress, but PyTorch still isn't fully functional with ROCm yet and that feels like a good litmus test.

https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/issues/10657

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by ngcc_hk on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @04:55PM (#23991505)
The Apple ecosystem with its amd graphic cars and future Apple Gpu card seems to be a fight. Or at least maintain certain software not totally all cuda all the way down. And also the gaming with amd dominates both gaming platform.

Really do not want just one players. And hope the high level plays have more completion.

Still interest in Taiwan part. Purely from economic point of view. How secure are we ok that front, if all eggs are in one basket. Hk is fallen. Taiwan or South China Sea is in play. That will affect the supply chain.

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by bgorman on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:16AM (#23987550)
I think the stranglehold is about to burst.

Intel is launching a GPU/Deep learning accelerator, Huawei is thinking about launching a GPU. Pytorch and Tensor flow work well enough on AMD GPUs. There are also custom deep learning ASICs from Google. There is simply too much competition at this point for CUDA to continue to be the standard.

Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by qchris on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:19PM (#23989209)
Is there any chance that some of the upcoming open-source cross-platform standards like WebGPU could have an effect on this, if tooling around them was built to support writing more GPGPU-focused code?
Re:AMD Reports Q2 2020 Earnings by NikolaeVarius on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:03AM (#23987422)
DLSS is black magic