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Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by kanobo on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:05AM (#23983876)
There's lots of different takes on why it failed, you can search 'olpc criticisms' on google and you'll find many articles with endless takes. To me they had many 'great' and inspiring design ideas that were completely out of touch with reality. For example, trying to put a handcrank on a laptop and the completely unfamiliar UI.
Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by paganel on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:21AM (#23983945)
It was also because MS and Intel sabotaged it. OLPC probably would have never worked anyway but the actions taken by the two companies left a very sour taste for me. Also, the “right-click any program in order to see its source-code” was an idea many generations ahead of its time, one that I’m afraid we won’t ever get to see, actually.
Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by renox on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @08:59AM (#23986128)
Partly due to Alan Kay's STEPS project failure to release meaningful code sources, you're right.. Frank ( https://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2012001_steps.pdf ) would have had A LOT of interested developer/user if they had released the code.
Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by jecel on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:45PM (#23989557)
It is not easy to find and even harder to actually use, but here are the sources:

http://tinlizzie.org/dbjr/

I also was sent a frank.image that runs on Squeak and uses these files but don't know where that can be found.

Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by renox on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @04:21PM (#23991150)
Thanks for the link! If you're able to find the image I'm interested, please PM me.
Re:Notes by Andy Hertzfeld on Alan Kay's talk at Creative Th... by jonjacky on Thursday July 30, 2020 @05:54PM (#24003270)
The aftermath of the STEPS project and its code is discussed in this thread by one of the STEPS authors/developers and others:

https://github.com/damelang/nile/issues/3

This HN post has links to many of the STEPS artifacts and their successors:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19844088