All of the protests started peacefully, including Portland. It was police violence that escalated things in the beginning. I recognize that they were not attacked _at that site_, but they were definitely attacked.
> They have a well established process of “peaceful” used as a shield for provocateurs
If you are breaking laws you will get hit with the laws. I'm not denying that. No one with their head on straight is calling violent protest peaceful.
In addition, there is evidence for PD's/alt-right inciting violence at protests to discredit them. I don't know if this is happening at Portland however.
> I have major issues with burning a courthouse ... the recourse of civilian peace.
The whole point of the protests is that this recourse has already failed.
> What we see is outright insurrection ... for an admitted imposition of communism.
While individuals may feel that way, I don't and I'm pretty sure most protesters don't. The fact that some of the leaders have talked about socialized health care
A) Doesn't mean that's the point of the protests.
B) Isn't communism.
By this logic, Trumps support of the white power movement [1] displays on the entire Republican party.
[1] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tweets-deletes-protest...
Edit: I'm not looking for confrontation here, I'd really like to get a better understanding of the situation. Right now, it really does look to me like the protesters -- not rioters attacking private property -- are in the right.
If you’re part of a violent siege, you’re part if a violent siege. Retreat or be targeted.
Exactly! ACAB :)
Sarcasm aside, I do think it varies by PD. My local department had zero issues when protests went on, even going so far as to take part, and then _not_ turn right around and start beating people.
Seems kinda like a bare minimum, but at least they hit that.
I offered several refutations(edit:and discussion) about that, which if you'd actually like to respond to I'd be happy to read.
If you just want to troll, I don't think we'll be getting much done here.
I have major issues with burning a courthouse - the nexus of polite functioning society, the recourse of civilian peace. Burn that, and the recourse for civilian property damage is vigilante violence - don’t go there.
What we see is outright insurrection, from mob to mayor, attempting to break our lawful government for an admitted imposition of communism. Don’t go there.