Re:Not an Amazon Problem
by realusername on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @05:09AM
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> The other solution is to ensure equality of outcome (make sure your employees are exactly 50% men and 50% women, for example) by setting hiring quotas. As is clear, this will be highly unfair to the advantaged class.
The issue I have with that is that is by far the worst inequality is coming from your social class, not your skin color or your gender.
Those quotas are thus trying to transform a social problem into a diversity problem.
Additionally, I prefer policies which attack the source of the problem (social inequality) than the symptoms (hiring). Of course that's harder to do and it cost much more money but that's really solving the problem instead of putting some rubber band onto it.
If you were born white and poor, there is a chance that you escape poverty and no one will ever know that you come from a poor background. If you're born black, many will assume that you likely come from a low income household, even if it's not true. You can never change that as long as social class is correlated with color of skin.
Re:Not an Amazon Problem
by tangjurine on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @06:28AM
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What is social class to you? How can it be objectively measured?
Economic class has big impact and can be objectively measured.
This is the classic "equality of outcome" vs "equality of opportunity" debate. Persons who have been disadvantaged by circumstances of their birth (color, nationality, poverty, etc.) have had their opportunities curbed as a result. How do you bring them back at par with their privileged peers?
One simple way is to remove inequalities in opportunity. However this is very hard in practice and does not help those who are already in a bad position.
The other solution is to ensure equality of outcome (make sure your employees are exactly 50% men and 50% women, for example) by setting hiring quotas. As is clear, this will be highly unfair to the advantaged class.
I don't know what is a just solution for this.