Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by thetanil on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:27PM
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Ask me if I will volunteer to give apple or google any more information than they already collect and my answer will always be no. I don't care what the reasoning. Germany did it right.
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Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by azinman2 on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:37PM
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Germany adopted the Apple/Google framework, which is exactly what an Apple/Google app would use. The whole point of the design is that it’s decentralized and you wouldn’t be giving Apple/Google more information.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by Spearchucker on Saturday July 25, 2020 @05:37PM
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True. Except that the German app turns on EVERYTHING - LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS. And the carrier gets it all. I had the app installed for all of maybe 2 minutes because it did exactly what it claimed to do, but I'm not giving the carrier even more granular location info. The only thing I leave on when I leave the house is mobile data.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by usr1106 on Saturday July 25, 2020 @10:24PM
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I'm not in Germany and I don't have compatible phone. But from all I have read the claim about turning on GPS is plain wrong.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by danijoo on Sunday July 26, 2020 @10:16AM
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German android user here. This is absolutely wrong. I suspect you are misinterpreting the permission message on Android. The app does not turn anything on. I suggest you to learn how androids permission system works before throwing out wrong accusions.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by Spearchucker on Sunday July 26, 2020 @03:04PM
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I stand by my post.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by zepto on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:58PM
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Since the contract tracing api doesn’t give information to Apple or Google, it’s hard to see what relevance this comment has.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by nxpnsv on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:28PM
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So they’d have to just force it then?
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by thetanil on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:37PM
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Or do it like Germany, no centralized info store.
Re:Smartphone contact tracing has failed everywhere
by makomk on Saturday July 25, 2020 @01:31PM
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The German approach doesn't give your information to a German centralized info store, but apparently it does require agreeing to feed your location data to Google's own databases on Android devices: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/technology/google-covid-t...